tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-49277553397906025292024-03-17T20:03:47.081-07:00Unite the FightPhillip Mintonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06680426451733583939noreply@blogger.comBlogger1425125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4927755339790602529.post-84480457399022282252015-06-27T10:53:00.001-07:002017-10-08T10:28:53.385-07:00Historical Celebrations<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">
Since I started this blog seven years ago, I fell in love, got married and had kids. Though I didn't need a ruling to inform me that my marriage and family were valid, seeing the support of the nation that I love expressed in such wonderful, celebratory ways, it's enough to make me cry. </div>
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I know it's corny, but I can't avoid saying it - God Bless America!</div>
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H/T <a href="http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/read-supreme-court-rulings-on-doma-and-prop-8-full-official-texts/politics/2013/06/26/69715">Gay Civil Rights</a> Phillip Mintonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06680426451733583939noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4927755339790602529.post-62939291102501133352010-02-08T14:19:00.000-08:002010-02-09T15:05:56.775-08:00Unite the Fight Bids Farewell<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi8mAfBt746dkxxRtAN5atVREs0UV0eC68ahKdSnf04sKkSYaqBGJsQef1jXRjwXKOsj6r0gop93shyXBRa_amQ6Ek4B-sCycChY_ngcp9c9gzY03NoqmL7upPz_KQ0SpPBRu-7X-pvMg/s1600-h/unite_Large_whitebkg.jpg"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 163px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi8mAfBt746dkxxRtAN5atVREs0UV0eC68ahKdSnf04sKkSYaqBGJsQef1jXRjwXKOsj6r0gop93shyXBRa_amQ6Ek4B-sCycChY_ngcp9c9gzY03NoqmL7upPz_KQ0SpPBRu-7X-pvMg/s400/unite_Large_whitebkg.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5436337167533075442" border="0" /></a><br />Dear Unite the Fight Readers,<br /><br />These past two years have been filled with many highs and many lows - we won the right to marry in California only to have it stripped away in months by the ignominious Proposition 8, the latter galvanizing our community into action that hasn't been seen in years.<br /><br />Despite another amazing high point of numerous demonstrations and actions attended and organized by thousands, the California Supreme Court, having once given us the right to marry, would later <a href="http://unitethefight.blogspot.com/2009/05/breaking-news-prop-8-upheld-marriage.html">side with the discriminatory Proposition 8 and uphold it</a>, creating yet again another low point. In spite of all this, our movement has encouragingly moved forward, and not just focused on marriage, but working state by state and on the federal level with a goal of full equality under all laws.<br /><br /><div style="width: 410px; text-align: center;"><embed type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" src="http://w489.photobucket.com/pbwidget.swf?pbwurl=http://w489.photobucket.com/albums/rr259/unitethefight/1626dd1a.pbw" height="332" width="410"></embed><a href="http://photobucket.com/slideshows" target="_blank"><img src="http://pic.photobucket.com/slideshows/btn.gif" style="border-width: 0pt; float: left;" /></a><a href="http://s489.photobucket.com/albums/rr259/unitethefight/?action=view&current=1626dd1a.pbw" target="_blank"><img src="http://pic.photobucket.com/slideshows/btn_viewallimages.gif" style="border-width: 0pt; float: left;" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">(November 15, 2008 Los Angeles Prop 8 Protest)</span><br /></div><br />I feel very lucky to have witnessed many of these events firsthand. Moved by what I was seeing immediately after the passage of Prop 8 and talking my boyfriend's (<a href="http://unitethefight.blogspot.com/2009/11/im-author-of-my-equality-not-maines.html">who is now my fiance´</a>) ear off about the injustice of the proposition, he begged me to stop yakking and write it down.<br /><br />So I did.<br /><br />I started a blog, a blog where I would not only voice my anger, but help the Los Angeles LGBT community be informed on when the next rally would take place and where, who was having a meeting when and where, and what actions they could take part of so that they too could voice their anger and work hands on to win back their rights. I called the blog Unite the Fight because that's what I wanted to see, that was my hope - to see numerous communities, not just the LGBT, come together to fight for equal rights. But I always saw the blog as a stepping stone - to help those new to the movement get plugged in and find where they belonged in the many arenas of the equal rights movement<br /><br />To my surprise and joy, the rejuvenated movement spurred by the passing of Prop 8 quickly spread outside of California and across the country like a wildfire. I found myself not only reporting on Los Angeles events, and those across California, but all across the country as the right to marry spread throughout New England and Iowa. I was happy but overwhelmed, and in order to keep up the quality I demanded of myself for the blog, I decided to focus on the marriage issue.<br /><br /><div style="width: 410px; text-align: center;"><embed type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" src="http://w489.photobucket.com/pbwidget.swf?pbwurl=http://w489.photobucket.com/albums/rr259/unitethefight/Meet%20in%20the%20Middle%20Rally%20May%2030%202009/704df4d6.pbw" height="332" width="410"></embed><a href="http://photobucket.com/slideshows" target="_blank"><img src="http://pic.photobucket.com/slideshows/btn.gif" style="border-width: 0pt; float: left;" /></a><a href="http://s489.photobucket.com/albums/rr259/unitethefight/Meet%20in%20the%20Middle%20Rally%20May%2030%202009/?action=view&current=704df4d6.pbw" target="_blank"><img src="http://pic.photobucket.com/slideshows/btn_viewallimages.gif" style="border-width: 0pt; float: left;" /></a></div><br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-style: italic;">(Meet in the Middle)</span><br /></div><br />Also to my surprise, I found my readership growing daily. It wasn't just Californians reading, and not only Americans, but people from around the world. I received countless emails from readers asking how they could get involved and how they could spread the news about an event or action.<br /><br />I had thousands reading while I wrote countless stories of rights advancing around the country, and I typed as fast I could and covered as many events as possible. Some of the highlights include the <a href="http://unitethefight.blogspot.com/2008/11/la-protest-nov-15th-2008.html">Prop 8 protests</a>, being the <a href="http://unitethefight.blogspot.com/search/label/Meet%20in%20the%20Middle">official blog for Meet in the Middle</a> and broadcasting the rally live to thousands (with the help of many UTF volunteers - <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/UnitetheFight">see the videos</a>!), <a href="http://unitethefight.blogspot.com/search/label/Camp%20Courage">numerous Camp Courage events</a> organized by Courage Campaign, <a href="http://unitethefight.blogspot.com/2009/06/leadership-summit-organizations-going.html">state</a> <a href="http://unitethefight.blogspot.com/2009/07/ca-marriage-equality-leadership-summit.html">summits</a> on when to repeal Prop 8, being a part of the<a href="http://unitethefight.blogspot.com/search/label/No%20on%201%20campaign"> No on 1/Protect Equality Maine netroots team</a>, covering the <a href="http://unitethefight.blogspot.com/search/label/National%20March%20for%20Equality">National Equality March through live Twitter and posts</a>, <a href="http://unitethefight.blogspot.com/2009/07/july-2nd-could-spell-beginning-of-end.html">interviewing the lawyers and team behind the Prop 8 federal challenge</a>, and receiving <a href="http://unitethefight.blogspot.com/search/label/contributing">many guest posts</a> from amazing activists around the country who wanted to share their point-of-views to the Unite the Fight readership.<br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh_drtJnfzXNOFIUquIBX1bbirqM_Lm3WgS4IVWHlXwfAOIDE9bSwPKja1sJBC290KgtR33QC0S-JjraEQWod00Vbw4JetPCIcSq_UVVuPzw7wy4K7Yeh5YEbtQbSxM7kMX5nPlnOTv0A/s1600-h/ccfresno.jpg"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 401px; height: 206px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh_drtJnfzXNOFIUquIBX1bbirqM_Lm3WgS4IVWHlXwfAOIDE9bSwPKja1sJBC290KgtR33QC0S-JjraEQWod00Vbw4JetPCIcSq_UVVuPzw7wy4K7Yeh5YEbtQbSxM7kMX5nPlnOTv0A/s400/ccfresno.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5436333872623937074" border="0" /></a><span style="font-style: italic;">(Camp Courage Fresno, CA)</span><br /></div><br />I demanded a lot from myself to keep the quality of Unite the Fight to a high standard. It took countless hours everyday, but I benefited from the commitment greatly. I met amazing people who had done and continue to do great work, it pushed me as a writer, and I got involved with the LGBT rights movement to an extent I never have before.<br /><br />I never thought that when I started the site it would become what it did. This is why, among many reasons, it has been difficult for me to make the decision that I must close shop at Unite the Fight.<br /><br />It's been apparent to my regular readers that recently I have not been able to keep the site updated as regularly as I have in the past. Many of you have relied on the number of daily posts here to keep you informed on the marriage movement, and my inability to keep you updated while maintaining the site's high standard has led to this decision. Exciting things are developing in my life career-wise and personally, and they have demanded more and more of my attention. I feel it is a disservice to myself and to my readers to divide my time and as a result, not keep the site as updated as in the past and to have my personal work suffer as well.<br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhRaZXNZYyvnHSiyuy1tam0ysPmmh_PJr7Su5hGRzgEymwO6B6F_zkyzcap_NUaL-ZTHowkcA-ggz-xnwBvXbYuS7KGOVhFcAX7_lxO9FpN8bIk42eHLDeyfj9HhniQEVIgjQpTd-ocIg/s1600-h/NEM.jpg"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 185px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhRaZXNZYyvnHSiyuy1tam0ysPmmh_PJr7Su5hGRzgEymwO6B6F_zkyzcap_NUaL-ZTHowkcA-ggz-xnwBvXbYuS7KGOVhFcAX7_lxO9FpN8bIk42eHLDeyfj9HhniQEVIgjQpTd-ocIg/s400/NEM.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5436334108206506354" border="0" /></a><span style="font-style: italic;">(National Equality March)</span><br /></div><br />It's been a long, agonizing struggle to come to the decision to end Unite the Fight for it has been my whole life for well over a year, and though I look forward to where life may bring me next, it's bittersweet that it will require saying goodbye to my work here, and especially to my dedicated readers.<br /><br />However, I will not disappear completely. Superb reporter Karen Ocamb, who decided to channel her years of experience reporting on countless LGBT events and stories by creating her own blog called <a href="http://lgbtpov.com/">LGBT POV</a> in September 2009, asked me to write periodically for her site. I of course said, "Yes!" So if you're a dedicated reader to UTF, please hop on over to <a href="http://lgbtpov.com/">LGBT POV</a>.<br /><br />As for UTF itself, the site will remain live on the internet for nearly a year. My contact information will remain the same. Many people have informed me that they currently use its archive to write papers, do research and find information. So I'm happy to keep the site up. I'm also being advised on how to handle the sight afterward - many have told me the site is valuable for future research and analysis, but that it's also valuable as a firsthand record of history, so I'm looking into different archiving possibilities that will keep the posts and information accessible to the public for the foreseeable future. Once this is settled, I will be sure to post the information here.<br /><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhi-2y9wIQNRfY44QzY-qbLLaUWRFBjhzOWme_G50bQWkd5waesx4w2k7bpl9eMweykz2Xg9ige8yyqLmt4NoFbScpoBIUs0FwfggpbmLktxtIyHhM1KYw1db-3PicYD96NRzPnzvIYzA/s1600-h/me.jpg"><img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 205px; height: 163px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhi-2y9wIQNRfY44QzY-qbLLaUWRFBjhzOWme_G50bQWkd5waesx4w2k7bpl9eMweykz2Xg9ige8yyqLmt4NoFbScpoBIUs0FwfggpbmLktxtIyHhM1KYw1db-3PicYD96NRzPnzvIYzA/s400/me.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5436336719717470738" border="0" /></a>So with a heavy heart, I finish my last post. Many of you have been amazing supporters and readers of the site and words will never be able to fully express what you mean to me, nor can they express what the past two years have meant to all of us. Yet I keep my eyes on the future, because I believe it is inevitable that in time, we will all have equal rights and sites like Unite the Fight won't be a necessity.<br /><br />Until then, keep an eye out for me at rallies, canvasses, fundraisers and more - I'll be there. Just look for the guy with the camera and pencil pad.<br /><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">Images of Camp Courage and National Equality March by </span><a style="font-style: italic;" href="http://veniceforchange.blogspot.com/">Marta Evry</a><span style="font-style: italic;">; picture of me with camera by </span><a style="font-style: italic;" href="http://lgbtpov.com/">Karen Ocamb</a><span style="font-style: italic;">; Meet in the Middle pictures by Zamna Avila on behalf of UTF</span>Phillip Mintonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06680426451733583939noreply@blogger.com11tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4927755339790602529.post-9861111096553086632010-02-02T09:06:00.000-08:002010-02-02T20:18:22.190-08:00VIDEO: Watch the First Reenactment of the Prop 8 TrialThe Los Angeles filmmakers of <a href="http://marriagetrial.com/">MarriageTrial.com</a> producing a series of reenactments of the Prop 8 trial based on trial transcripts have <a href="http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_GAY_MARRIAGE_RE_ENACTMENT?SITE=OHRAV&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT">posted the first in a series</a>.<br /><br /><object height="332" width="410"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/tDmA_n5ygS4&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&fs=1"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/tDmA_n5ygS4&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" height="332" width="410"></embed></object><br /><br /><object height="332" width="410"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/bzDiFT_CWwE&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&fs=1"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/bzDiFT_CWwE&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" height="332" width="410"></embed></object><br /><br />In related news, actor Joseph Gordon-Levitt's company <a href="http://www.hitrecord.org/">hitRECord</a> created a Schoolhouse Rock style message criticizing the Supreme Court's decision to block the broadcasting of the Prop 8 trial. It's a must see!<br /><br /><object height="332" width="410"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/i1sxXVcQzHA&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&fs=1"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/i1sxXVcQzHA&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" height="332" width="410"></embed></object>Phillip Mintonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06680426451733583939noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4927755339790602529.post-69392144715861060582010-01-30T11:23:00.000-08:002010-01-30T11:37:00.833-08:00Prop 8 Trial Summary: Plaintiffs Demonstrate Unconstitutionality of Prop 8<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj6GRsnNgtsbEJWMSHPGZHLgnVuSV0ciXG8illg-QRzwknl5kXJBlYVbV5QYEe5IccCyQhIGyu_me9lgok06cNsqw0x0rmJYFAeobue-4Jh8qku-8catQ5NaPlFXxRjdF_-KqNJksSgGQ/s1600-h/prop8case.jpg"><img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 208px; height: 117px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj6GRsnNgtsbEJWMSHPGZHLgnVuSV0ciXG8illg-QRzwknl5kXJBlYVbV5QYEe5IccCyQhIGyu_me9lgok06cNsqw0x0rmJYFAeobue-4Jh8qku-8catQ5NaPlFXxRjdF_-KqNJksSgGQ/s400/prop8case.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5432618626127362914" border="0" /></a><span style="font-style: italic;">From the <a href="http://equalrightsfoundation.org/">American Foundation for Equal Rights</a>, the group behind the federal challenge to Prop 8:</span><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><div style="text-align: center; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 255, 0);">Plaintiffs’ Witnesses and Defendant-Intervenors' Own Witnesses Testify to Harm, Unreasonableness of Prop. 8<br /></div><br />“I just want to get married…it's as simple as that. I love someone. I want to get married. My state is supposed to protect me. It's not supposed to discriminate against me.” – Plaintiff Paul Katami<br /><br />Judge: “I'm asking you to tell me how it would harm opposite-sex marriages.”<br />Pro-Prop. 8 Atty Cooper: “All right.”<br />Judge: “All right. Let's play on the same playing field for once.”<br />Cooper: “Your Honor, my answer is: I don't know. I don't know.” – 10/14/09 pretrial hearing rejecting defendant intervenors' request for summary judgment<br /><br />JANUARY 29, 2010 – Lawyers representing two couples who want to marry but cannot because of Proposition 8 demonstrated the unconstitutionality of the initiative through the presentation of 17 witnesses and revealing cross-examination of the defendant-intervenors’ witnesses.<br /><br />Since trial began over the unconstitutionality of Prop. 8 on January 11, it was demonstrated in the courtroom of Chief Judge Vaughn R. Walker of the U.S. District Court, Northern District of California, that:<br /><br />• Prop. 8 does irreparable harm to Americans<br />• Marriage has shed discriminatory restrictions over time<br />• Gay men and lesbians are entitled to the full protection of the 14th Amendment<br />• There is no good reason for Prop. 8's denial of fundamental civil rights<br /><br />Theodore Olson and David Boies, who notably faced off in 2000's Bush v. Gore, were brought together to lead the legal team against Prop. 8 by the American Foundation for Equal Rights. They are representing Kris Perry & Sandy Stier and Paul Katami & Jeff Zarrillo, two couples who want to be married but cannot because of Prop. 8.<br /><br />Their powerful testimony, along with that of author Helen Zia; the Republican Mayor of San Diego, Jerry Sanders; and Ryan Kendall, who was forced to undergo “conversion therapy” intended to change him from gay to straight, presented compelling, first-hand testimony as to the harm of Prop. 8 and its role in the long and continuing history of discrimination against gay men and lesbians.<br /><br />Nine eminent experts also testified, including professors from Yale, Harvard, Stanford, Columbia, Cambridge, and UCLA who are recognized internationally as leading scholars in history, economics, psychology, sociomedical science, political science, and more. The testimonies, research, and findings of each stood up to several hours of cross-examination from the defendant-intervenors. (<a href="http://www.equalrightsfoundation.org/legal-filings/plaintiffs-trial-witness-list">Brief bios of all witnesses</a>)<br /><br />Olson and Boies also called to the stand William Tam, an Official Proponent of Prop. 8, whose testimony revealed the discriminatory motivations of the initiative and how the Prop. 8 campaign used him and others to deliver messages about disease, incest, polygamy, and pedophilia in support of their overall “protect children” message. He was masterfully questioned by Boies.<br /><br />For Tam quotes and campaign communications, go to <a href="http://www.equalrightsfoundation.org/press-releases/discriminatory-motivations-of-prop-8-exposed-in-court-today">here</a> and <a href="http://www.equalrightsfoundation.org/press-releases/day-9-of-prop-8-trial">here</a>.<br /><br />Documents and videos presented by the Olson and Boies team also revealed that the Prop. 8 campaign paid for broadcasts that sought to link marriage equality to incest, polygamy, bestiality, and pedophilia to justify the restriction of people’s civil rights. This clearly points to the discriminatory motivations and unconstitutionality of the initiative.<br /><br />Olson and Boies also presented to the court the depositions of the four expert witnesses that the defendant-intervenors dropped from their witness list. The defendant-intervenors cut their witness list from six to two after those experts made several statements damaging to Prop. 8 and in support of the plaintiffs' case during their depositions. Go <a href="http://www.equalrightsfoundation.org/press-releases/defendant-experts-undercut-prop-8">here</a>.<br /><br />The defendant-intervenors' own experts stated under oath in their depositions that:<br />• Equal marriage would increase family stability and improve the lives of children<br />• Sexual orientation is not something that can be readily changed<br />• Gay men and lesbians have faced a long history of discrimination including violence – discrimination that continues today and that includes Prop. 8<br />• There is broad scientific and professional consensus in favor of equal marriage<br /><br />Under questioning from Boies, the credibility of the defendant-intervenors’ two witnesses was thoroughly undermined on the stand. It was revealed that political science professor Kenneth Miller, called by the defendant-intervenors to assert that gay men and lesbians are not politically vulnerable, has written only one peer-reviewed publication regarding gays and lesbian politics – and that the article (published in France) dealt with Prop. 8, which, of course, was a strong blow to their rights.<br /><br />Furthermore, Miller admitted his testimony was in part based on materials provided to him by the attorneys defending Prop. 8. Later it was revealed that Miller could not remember whether attorneys had provided at least 65 percent of the materials he based his testimony on, totaling well over 200 documents, articles, etc.<br /><br />The defendant-intervenors’ star witness, David Blankenhorn, admitted on the stand that he has written only two peer-reviewed publications in his life, none of which are relevant to this case; does not hold a doctorate and that his master’s thesis centered on Victorian cabinetmakers; has never conducted any scientific research on same-sex marriage; and has not read the U.S. Supreme Court rulings that deal with marriage as a fundamental right.<br /><br />Miller made multiple admissions that bolster the plaintiffs’ case, including that Prop. 8 at least in part passed because of “anti-gay stereotypes” and “prejudice,” and that initiatives like Prop. 8 “can be and have been used to disadvantage minorities.”<br /><br />Blankenhorn admitted that “Adopting same-sex marriage would be likely to improve the well-being of gay and lesbian households and their children,” and would be “a victory for the worthy ideas of tolerance and inclusion” and “a victory for, and another key expansion of, the American idea.” He also testified that it would result in fewer children growing up in state institutions and instead being raised by loving parents and would in fact reduce the divorce rate; reduce promiscuity; improve the stability of couples’ relationships; increase wealth for families and reduce government costs; and a decline in “anti-gay prejudice” and “anti-gay hate crimes.”<br /><br /><a href="http://www.equalrightsfoundation.org/press-releases/blankenhorn-admissions/">See Blankenhorn's admissions.</a><br /><br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 255, 0);">Outline of Case </span><br /></div><br />Olson, who has won two Supreme Court decisions since this case was filed, and who has argued more cases to the Supreme Court than any other active attorney, delivered the plaintiffs' opening statement.<br /><br />***He noted that the U.S. Supreme Court has recognized the fundamental civil right of marriage for all Americans, including in its Loving v. Virginia decision, which in 1967 eliminated interracial marriage bans.***<br /><br />“This case is about marriage and equality. Plaintiffs are being denied both the right to marry, and the right to equality under the law. The Supreme Court of the United States has repeatedly described the right to marriage as 'one of the vital personal rights essential to the orderly pursuit of happiness by free men;' a 'basic civil right;' a component of the constitutional rights to liberty, privacy, association, and intimate choice; an expression of emotional support and public commitment; the exercise of spiritual unity; and a fulfillment of one’s self,” he said. “In short, in the words of the highest court in the land, marriage is 'the most important relation in life,' and 'of fundamental importance for all individuals.'”<br /><br />See full text <a href="http://www.equalrightsfoundation.org/press-releases/text-of-ted-olsons-opening-statement-in-prop-8-trial-as-prepared-2/">here</a>.<br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;">PROP. 8 DOES IRREPARABLE HARM TO AMERICANS<br /></div><br />***Stigma and Discrimination***<br /><br />GREGORY HEREK, Ph.D., a Professor of Psychology at the University of California at Davis testified that "social stigma" gives "a level of permission to attack" gay men and lesbians.<br /><br />"If two men were to walk down the street holding hands in many places, that would elicit a great deal of negative reaction," he testified.<br /><br />MAYOR SANDERS testified, “If government tolerates discrimination against anyone for any reason, it becomes an excuse for the public to do exactly the same thing.”<br /><br />ILAN H. MEYER, Ph.D., Associate Professor of Clinical Sociomedical Sciences at Columbia University’s Mailman School of Public Health, testified that Prop. 8 treats gay men and lesbians as if they are “not seen as equal… not respected by my state or by my country, by my fellow citizens.”<br /><br />“As I described stigma earlier, I would say that law, and certainly a constitutional part of the law, would be a very strong part of, as I described, the social structures that define stigma, that define access. In a very simple way, you can think of it as a block or gate toward a particular institution, toward attaining a particular goal. So, in that sense, it is very much fitting in the definition of structural stigma,” Meyer testified. “[Prop. 8 imposes stigma] by the fact that it denies them access to the institution of marriage. As I said, people in our society have goals that are cherished by all people. Again, that's part of social convention, that we all grow up raised to think that there are certain things that we want to achieve in life. And, in this case, this Proposition 8, in fact, says that if you are gay or lesbian, you cannot achieve this particular goal.”<br /><br />ZARRILLO: “The word 'marriage' has a special meaning. ...If it wasn't so important, we wouldn't be here today,” he testified. “I want to be able to share the joy and the happiness that my parents felt, my brother felt, my friends, my co-workers, my neighbors, of having the opportunity to be married. It's the logical next step for us.”<br /><br />“When someone is married, and whether it's an introduction with a stranger, whether it's someone noticing my ring, or something of that nature, it says to them these individuals are serious; these individuals are committed to one another; they have taken that step to be involved in a relationship that one hopes lasts the rest of their life.”<br /><br />KATAMI: “When you find someone who is not only your best friend but your best advocate and supporter in life, it's a natural next step for me to want to be married to that person,” he testified. “I can safely say that if I were married to Jeff, I know that the struggle that we have validating ourselves to other people would be diminished and potentially eradicated.”<br /><br />PERRY: “I want to marry Sandy. I want to have a stable and secure relationship with her that then we can include our children in,” she testified. “And I want the discrimination we are feeling with Proposition 8 to end and for a more positive, joyful part of our lives to begin.”<br /><br />STIER testified: “I'm just trying to get the rights that the Constitution already says I have.”<br /><br />***Economic Harm***<br /><br />M.V. LEE BADGETT, Ph.D., a Professor of Economics at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst, testified, "Prop. 8 has inflicted substantial economic harm on same-sex couples and their children who live here in California.”<br /><br />EDMUND EGAN, Ph.D., Chief Economist for the City and County of San Francisco, testified that Proposition 8 is a drain on government budgets, and that legalizing same-sex marriage would generate significant revenues and increase personal wealth, and would also reduce the burden on government services from people without health insurance and other benefits.<br /><br />“It’s clear to me that Proposition 8 has a negative material impact,” he testified.<br /><br />***No Substitute for Marriage***<br /><br />NANCY COTT, Ph.D., the Jonathan Trumbull Professor of American History at Harvard University, testified that “the fact that the state is involved in granting these kinds of benefits and legitimacy to the marital family tends to lend a prestige, a status to that institution that no informal marriage has ever approximated.”<br /><br />STIER: “Certainly nothing about domestic partnership as an institution -- not even an institution, but as a legal agreement -- indicates the love and commitment that are inherent in marriage, and it doesn't have anything to do for us with the nature of our relationship and the type of enduring relationship we want it to be. It's just a legal document,” she testified.<br /><br />LETITIA ANNE PEPLAU, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology at the University of California, Los Angeles, testified that she has “great confidence that some of the things that come from marriage, believing that you are part of the first class kind of relationship in this country, that you are -- that you are in the status of relationships that this society most values, most esteems, considers the most legitimate and the most appropriate, undoubtedly has benefits that are not part of domestic partnerships.”<br /><br />HELEN ZIA, an Asian-American author and a lesbian, testified about her experiences with discrimination, the effects of being denied the right to marry and the importance of being able to be married in 2008.<br />"My mother is an immigrant from China. She really doesn’t get what partner is," she testified. "Marriage made it very clear that I was family, that we are family, and where we stand."<br /><br />DR. MEYER testified that domestic partnership is not an adequate substitute for marriage, and said he doubted that society places any value on domestic partnership. “I don’t know if it has any social meaning,” he testified. “It is, I think, quite clear that young children do not aspire to become domestic partners. But, certainly, the word ‘marriage’ is something that many people aspire to.”<br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;">MARRIAGE HAS SHED DISCRIMINATORY RESTRICTIONS<br /></div><br />DR. COTT discussed the history of marriage and that it has shed discriminatory restrictions.<br /><br />“As many as 41 states and territories had for significant periods of their history on marriage between a white person and a person of color.... And long ago marriage had an important political governance purpose. It set up men as heads of households who would be responsible economically for their spouses and for any of their dependents, whether those were biological children, adopted children, stepchildren, slaves, apprentices, et cetera,” she testified.<br /><br />“Now, that political governance purpose of marriage today is -- has shifted rather dramatically, because we no longer assume that a single head of household governs everyone below it. We have a much more individualized distribution of political power in our population, particularly since 1920, when women got the right to vote. …The institution of marriage has always been at least as much about supporting adults as it has been about supporting minors, children, as the proponents tend to emphasize the child's side.”<br /><br />DR. COTT also testified about the meaning of marriage in the context of slavery. “When slaves were emancipated, they flocked to get married. And this was not trivial to them, by any means. They saw the ability to marry legally, to replace the informal unions in which they had formed families and had children, many of them, to replace those informal unions with legal, valid marriage in which the states in which they lived would presumably protect their vows to each other. In fact, one quote that historians have drawn out from the record ... it was said by an ex-slave who had also been a Union soldier, and he declared, 'The marriage covenant is the foundation of all our rights.'”<br /><br />“And then in corollary with that,” Dr. Cott continued, “there are other ways in which this position of civil rights, of basic citizenship, is a feature of the ability to marry and to choose the partner you want to choose. ... It has to do with a black man, Dred Scott, who tried to say, when he was in a non-slave-holding state, that he was a citizen. And in an infamous decision, the Supreme Court denied him that claim. And why this is relevant here is that Justice Taney spent about three paragraphs of that opinion remarking that the fact that Dred Scott as a black man could not marry a white woman -- in other words, that there were marriage laws in the state where he was and many other states, that prevented blacks from marrying whites -- was a stigma that marked him as less than a full citizen.... he remarked on it because of the extent to which this limitation on Dred's ability to marry was a piece of evidence that Justice Taney was remarking upon in his opinion to say this shows he<br />could not be a full citizen.”<br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;">GAY MEN AND LESBIANS ARE ENTITLED TO THE FULL PROTECTION OF THE 14th AMENDMENT<br /></div><br />DR. HEREK testified that “There's no inherent relationship between a person's sexual orientation and their ability to be productive and contributing members of society.”<br /><br />***The evidence clearly discounted the backers of Prop. 8's assertions that sexual orientation is a choice and that so-called “change therapies” can be effective. It also discounted the notion that marriage to someone of the opposite sex is a viable alternative.***<br /><br />ZARRILLO testified that he could not marry a person of the opposite sex: “I have no attraction, desire, to be with a member of the opposite sex.”<br /><br />STIER testified as to her sexual orientation: “Well, I'm convinced, because at 47 years old I have fallen in love one time and it's with Kris.”<br /><br />KATAMI testified the he has been gay, “As long as I can remember.”<br /><br />PERRY testified: “I have always felt strong attraction and interest in women and formed really close relationships with women, and I have only ever fallen in love with women.” Asked whether she may change her sexual orientation she testified: “I'm 45 years old. I don't think so.”<br /><br />DR. HEREK testified as to his agreement with research stating: "We suggested the term sexual preference is misleading, as it assumes conscious or deliberate choice and may trivialize the depth of the psychological processes involved. We recommend the term sexual orientation because most of research findings indicate that homosexual feelings are a basic part of an individual's psyche and are established much earlier than conscious choice would indicate."<br /><br />He testified that “the American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association.... the major professional mental health associations have all gone on record affirming that homosexuality is a normal expression of sexuality, that it is not in any way a form of pathology.”<br /><br />He testified that he agrees with the position of the American Psychological Association that “the results of scientifically valid research indicate that it is unlikely that individuals will be able to reduce same-sex attractions or increase other-sex sexual attractions through SOCE [sexual-orientation-change efforts]."<br /><br />He also agreed with the following from the APA: “...the American Psychological Association concludes that there is insufficient evidence to support the use of psychological interventions to change sexual orientation” and testified that no other major mental health organizations have endorsed therapies to change sexual orientation, and that aside from being ineffective, they can cause harm.<br /><br />“It's important to realize that the underlying assumption of these therapies tends to be that there's something wrong; that homosexuality is a mental illness; that it's something that needs to be cured or something that needs to be fixed or repaired. And that, of course, is completely inconsistent with the stance of the American Psychological Association, the American Psychiatric Association, and other professional organizations in this area,” he testified.<br /><br />Ryan Kendall, who was forced to undergo “change therapy,” testified that at its conclusion: "I was just as gay as when I started. I knew I was gay, just like I knew I was short and half Hispanic. I never thought those facts would change.”<br /><br />***History of Discrimination is Ongoing and Includes Prop. 8***<br /><br />It was also demonstrated that gay men and lesbians continue to suffer from discrimination. In addition to the testimony of Drs. Herek and Meyer, Yale History Professor GEORGE CHAUNCEY, Ph.D., testified: “Lesbians and gay men have experienced widespread and acute discrimination from both public and private authorities over the course of the 20th century. And that has continuing legacies and effects. This has been manifested in the criminalization of sexual intimacy and association; the discrimination in public accommodations, in employment; censorship of images about gay people and speech by gay activists; stereotyping and demonization of lesbians and gay men. And that all this has been drawn on and reinforced sustained patterns of prejudice and hostility.”<br /><br />Specifically regarding Prop. 8, Dr. Chauncey testified that “the wave of campaigns that we have seen against gay marriage rights in the last decade are, in effect, the latest stage and cycle of anti-gay rights campaigns of a sort that I have been describing; that they continue with a similar intent and use some of the same imagery.”<br /><br />After viewing several pro-Prop. 8 television ads and videos, Dr. Chauncey testified that the language and images suggesting the ballot initiative was needed to “protect children” were reminiscent of efforts to “demonize” gay men and lesbians ranging from police raids to efforts to remove gay and lesbian teachers from public schools.<br /><br />“You have a pretty strong echo of this idea that simple exposure to gay people and their relationships is somehow going to lead a whole generation of young kids to become gay,” Dr. Chauncey testified. “The underlying message here is something about the – the undesirability of homosexuality, that we don’t want our children to become this way.<br /><br />***Gay Men and Lesbians Remain Politically Vulnerable***<br /><br />GARY M. SEGURA, Ph.D., Professor of American Politics in the Department of Political Science at Stanford University, testified that “gays and lesbians do not possess a meaningful degree of political power. They are not able to protect their basic interests and effectuate their interests into law and to secure those.”<br /><br />“Relative to some other groups that currently enjoy judicial protection, gays and lesbians are actually, in the statutory and constitutional sense, worse off than some of those groups were when they were granted judicial protection,” Segura testified.<br /><br />“There is no group in American society who has been targeted by ballot initiatives more than gays and lesbians. They have essentially lost a hundred percent of the contests over same-sex marriage,” Segura testified. “The initiative process has been really the Waterloo of gay and lesbian politics.”<br /><br />Segura noted that 33 of 34 ballot initiatives against equal marriage were passed over the last decade. (In Arizona it failed because of a clause that would impact health care. It was put back on the ballot the following year and passed.)<br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;">THERE IS NO GOOD REASON FOR PROP. 8's DENIAL OF FUNDAMENTAL CIVIL RIGHTS<br /></div><br />***Procreation Not Defining Purpose of Marriage***<br /><br />DR. COTT challenged statements made by defendant-intervenors' attorney Charles Cooper during his opening statement that procreation is the "central and ... defining purpose of marriage." She testified that the ability or willingness to procreate has never been a litmus test for marriage.<br /><br />“There has never been a requirement that a couple produce children in order to have a valid marriage. Of course, people beyond procreative age have always been allowed to marry. And known sterility or barrenness in a woman has never been a reason not to allow a marriage. In fact, it's a surprise to many people to learn that George Washington, who is often called the father of our country, was sterile,” she testified.<br /><br />***Equal Rights Will Not Harm Others***<br /><br />DR. PEPLAU testified that there is no evidence to suggest that marriage equality would harm others.<br /><br />"It is very hard for me to imagine you would have a happily married couple who would say, 'Gertrude, we have been married for 30 years, but I think we have to throw in the towel because Adam and Stewart down the block got married,’" Dr. Peplau testified.<br /><br />DR. BADGETT testified, “I have the opinion that letting same-sex couples marry would not have any adverse effect on the institution of marriage or on different sex couples.”<br /><br />MICHAEL LAMB, Ph.D., a Professor and Head of the Department of Social and Developmental Psychology at Cambridge University told the court, “We have a substantial body of evidence documenting that a child being raised by same-sex parents are just as likely to be well-adjusted as children raised by heterosexual parents.”<br /><br />Dr. Lamb also testified (referring to children of gay and lesbian parents) that: “For a significant number of these children, their adjustment would be promoted were their parents able to get married.<br /><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">Press conference with plaintiff's attorneys following both sides resting their case.</span><br /><br /><object height="332" width="410"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/u8weQiZj-lQ&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&fs=1"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/u8weQiZj-lQ&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" height="332" width="410"></embed></object><br /><br /><br /><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">Find all court transcripts <a href="http://www.equalrightsfoundation.org/our-work/hearing-transcripts/">here</a>.<br /><br />UTF Note: For all of UTF's coverage of the Prop 8 trial, go</span><a style="font-style: italic;" href="http://unitethefight.blogspot.com/search/label/court%20case"> here</a><span style="font-style: italic;">. </span>Phillip Mintonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06680426451733583939noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4927755339790602529.post-58001378001477601932010-01-29T09:53:00.000-08:002010-01-29T10:20:26.322-08:00VIDEO: Radio Host Imus Supports Marriage Rights; Deceased MO Trooper's Partner Denied BenefitsAmerican radio host Don Imus talks to attorney David Boies, plaintiff's attorney in challenge to Prop 8, and declares he supports marriage equality. <br /><br /><object width="410" height="332"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/223bBc3p_4I&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/223bBc3p_4I&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="410" height="332"></embed></object><br /><br /><br />A deceased Missouri Highway Trooper's partner of nearly 15 years is being <a href="http://www.fox2now.com/news/ktvi-trooper-denied-benefits-012810,0,2621553.story">denied benefits</a>, affecting his finances and his 17-year-old son. <br /><br /> <embed type='application/x-shockwave-flash' salign='l' flashvars='&titleAvailable=true&playerAvailable=true&searchAvailable=false&shareFlag=N&singleURL=http://ktvi.vidcms.trb.com/alfresco/service/edge/content/9f690d71-9b9a-4712-a6ee-b5fc1b2c02ea&propName=ktvi.com&hostURL=http://www.fox2now.com&swfPath=http://ktvi.vid.trb.com/player/&omAccount=triblocaltvglobal&omnitureServer=fox2now.com' allowscriptaccess='always' allowfullscreen='true' menu='true' name='PaperVideoTest' bgcolor='#ffffff' devicefont='false' wmode='transparent' scale='showall' loop='true' play='true' pluginspage='http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer' quality='high' src='http://ktvi.vid.trb.com/player/PaperVideoTest.swf' align='middle' height='332' width='410'></embed>Phillip Mintonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06680426451733583939noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4927755339790602529.post-37385110770490981402010-01-27T12:59:00.000-08:002010-01-27T13:41:50.327-08:00Prop 8 Trial Coverage Day 11 and 12: Defendant's Last Witness Not Cooperative and Not Knowledgeable; Testimony Concludes<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhLO7LzheSUXzdWDzEbw6JfILprynmT79gRE4gs4OmV2wbdy-sEC03B1X2L7gGScDYZZtqj_IaVdAioAr9x-6bVZmRfuczYqtCyYmdkPfbtjELuZUhi9eQA8DXcfwngUV7sPSbIj4lgcg/s1600-h/gmp-blankenhorn.jpg"><img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 207px; height: 165px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhLO7LzheSUXzdWDzEbw6JfILprynmT79gRE4gs4OmV2wbdy-sEC03B1X2L7gGScDYZZtqj_IaVdAioAr9x-6bVZmRfuczYqtCyYmdkPfbtjELuZUhi9eQA8DXcfwngUV7sPSbIj4lgcg/s400/gmp-blankenhorn.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5431535758289348882" border="0" /></a>The <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/01/27/us/AP-US-Gay-Marriage-Trial.html?_r=1&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss">Prop 8 trial witness testimony ended</a> today with defendant's last "expert" witness David Blankenhorn, the founder and president of the Institute for American Values, a conservative group committed to the "renewal of marriage."<br /><br />On Tuesday plaintiff's attorney David Boies immediately went after his so-called expert status, almost disqualifying Blankenhorn from being a witness at all. <a href="http://www.keennewsservice.com/2010/01/27/final-yes-on-8-expert-concedes-%27no-scientific-evidence%27-of-harm/">Lisa Keen reports</a>:<br /><blockquote style="font-style: italic;">Boies went after Blankenhorn’s credibility immediately, noting that he apparently had only one peer-reviewed article to his credit and that was a thesis on a labor dispute between cabinetmaker unions in Britain.<br /><br />Although Blankenhorn was being offered as an expert witness on how same-sex marriages are detrimental to heterosexual marriages and children, Boies noted that Blankenhorn’s education had been in history.<br /><br />“You’ve never taught a course in college,” said Boies, “and you have no degree in psychology, psychiatry, sociology, anthropology.…”<br /><br />“No,” said Blankenhorn, interrupting.<br /><br />“And in preparation for this testimony, did you undertake any scientific study of what effects permitting same-sex marriages have been in any jurisdiction where same-sex marriages have been permitted?” asked Boies.<br /><br />“No,” said Blankenhorn. And that’s about when Blankenhorn began to resist Boies’ punches.</blockquote>In regards to his own expertise, Blankenhorn would go on to say about the research he was using to back up his claims, "I'm simply repeating things that they say" and "These are not my own conclusions."<br /><br />At this point,<a href="http://bayarea.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/26/same-sex-marriage-case-day-11-churches/"> Blankehorn refused to cooperate and to answer the questions that Boies directed at him</a>.<br /><blockquote style="font-style: italic;">At least a dozen times in the testimony, Mr. Blankenhorn refused to answer Mr. Boies when the lawyer posed a question and asked him to answer with a straightforward “Yes, no, or I don’t know.” Mr. Blankenhorn would say that there was no way to answer without extended clarification — even after Judge Walker instructed him to respond on several occasions.<br /><br />During a typical exchange, Mr. Boies asked the witness if any of the scholars he has relied on had “asserted that allowing same sex marriage would lower the rate of heterosexual marriage.”<br /><br />Mr. Blankenhorn replied that the “safest answer is I don’t know,” before adding, “But I believe the answer is that some of them have.”<br /><br />Mr. Boies then asked Mr. Blankenhorn to name the scholars, but the witness refused.<br /><br />As the questioning devolved into bickering, Judge Walker put both hands in the air to stop the pair.<br /><br />“Don’t argue with each other,” he said wearily, pointing to Mr. Boies and then to Mr. Blankenhorn. “Just ask a question and give an answer.”</blockquote>As Boies went down the list of research that Blankenhorn used to support his arguments that same-sex marriage would "deinstutionalize" marriage, Boies pointed out that in fact the research did not support Blankhenhorn's statements.<br /><br />As the question and answer spiraled into a quarrel around 5pm, Judge Walker said, “I wonder whether in view of the hour that a good night’s sleep might help with this line of questioning." (<a href="http://www.equalrightsfoundation.org/legal-filings/hearing-transcripts/perry-trial-day-11-transcript/">Read Tuesday's trial transcript</a> or <a href="http://prop8trialtracker.com/2010/01/26/liveblogging-day-11-daily-summary/">Prop 8 Trial Tracker's Day 11 summary</a>.)<br /><br />Hear Ted Olson and David Boies press conference from yesterday courtesy of <a href="http://wockner.blogspot.com/2010/01/courthouse-prop-8-federal-trial.html">Rex Wockner</a>.<br /><br /><object height="332" width="410"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/B6qJ5eywzVU&hl=en_US&fs=1&"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/B6qJ5eywzVU&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="332" width="410"></embed></object><br /><br />Prop 8 and the Right to Marry has a <a href="http://prop8legalcommentary.blogspot.com/2010/01/selection-of-articles-and-commentary-on.html">great list of articles</a> to read on Tuesday's hearing.<br /><br />The <a href="http://equalrightsfoundation.org/">American Foundation for Equal Rights</a> (AFER), the group behind the Prop 8 challenge, reported that today, as the cross-examination of Blankenhorn continued, Blankenhorn actually conceded and bolstered many of the points supporting the case against Prop 8.<br /><br />Many of Blankenhorn's admissions include:<br /><blockquote>Marriage is vitally important in American society.Prop. 8 causes grievous harm to gays and lesbians and their children Prop. 8 perpetrates this harm for no good reason.<br /><br />He admitted marriage is a "public good" and that marriage would benefit gays and lesbians, their children and society at large.<br /><br />He also testified (text below as shown on screen):<br /><br />· "Gay marriage would extend a wide range of the natural and practical benefits of marriage to many lesbian and gay couples and their children."<br /><br />· "Extending the right to marry to same-sex couples would probably mean that a higher proportion of gays and lesbians would choose to enter into committed relationships."<br /><br />· "Same-sex marriage would likely contribute to more stability and to longer-lasting relationships for committed same-sex couples."<br /><br />· "Same-sex marriage might lead to less sexual promiscuity among lesbians and (perhaps especially) gay men."<br /><br />· "Same-sex marriage would signify greater social acceptance of homosexual love and the worth and validity of same-sex intimate relationships."<br /><br />· "Gay marriage would be a victory for the worthy ideas of tolerance and inclusion. It would likely decrease the number of those in society who tend to be viewed warily as 'other' and increase the number who are accepted as part of 'us.' In that respect, gay marriage would be a victory for, and another key expansion of, the American idea."<br /><br />· "Gay marriage might contribute over time to a decline in anti-gay prejudice as well as, more specifically, a reduction in anti-gay hate crimes."<br /><br />· "Because marriage is a wealth-creating institution, extending marriage rights to same-sex couples would probably increase wealth accumulation and lead to higher living standards for these couples as well as help reduce welfare costs (by promoting family economic self-sufficiency) and decrease economic inequality."<br /><br />· "Extending marriage rights to same-sex couples would probably reduce the proportion of homosexuals who marry persons of the opposite sex, and thus would likely reduce instances of marital unhappiness and divorce."<br /><br />· "By increasing the number of married couples who might be interested in adoption and foster care, same-sex marriage might well lead to fewer children growing up in state institutions and more growing up in loving adoptive and foster families."<br /></blockquote>Though Blankenhorn cited polygamy as a reason to oppose same-sex marriage, using the overly used but never factually supported slippery slope argument, plaintiff's power attorney Ted Olson dismissed it.<br /><br />“This is the game that they’re playing,” Ted Olson said. “They define marriage as a man and a woman. They call that the institution of marriage. So if you let a man marry a man and a woman marry a woman, it would deinstitutionalize marriage. That is the same as saying you are deinstitutionalizing the right to vote when you let women have it. It’s a game. It’s a tautology. They’re saying, 'this is the definition. You’re going to change the definition by allowing people access that don't have it now, and that would change it so that people who currently have access won't want it any more because it's changed.' This is all nonsense. They are not proving that. This is a syllogism that falls apart. The major premise, minor premise and conclusion are empty.”<br /><br />Today, the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/01/27/us/AP-US-Gay-Marriage-Trial.html?_r=1&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss">Prop 8 proponents rested their case</a> after only two weak witnesses whose expert status was not only eviscerated on the stand, but both conceded the main points of the plaintiff's arguments. The plaintiffs had well over a dozen witnesses.<br /><br />As reported earlier, Judge Walker will be taking his time to go over the evidence. Final arguments won't be scheduled until late February or early March.Phillip Mintonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06680426451733583939noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4927755339790602529.post-39806235721945191952010-01-26T12:00:00.000-08:002010-01-26T12:00:03.158-08:00MUST SEE VIDEO: Protect Children? Then Mean It!My friend Rob Tisinai of <a href="http://wakingupnow.com ">Waking Up Now</a> does it again with another great rebuttal to the anti-LGBT wingnuts. <br /><br /><object width="410" height="332"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/sV5PbrTySxY&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/sV5PbrTySxY&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="410" height="332"></embed></object><br /><br />Check out more of <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/robtish">Rob's videos on YouTube</a>.Phillip Mintonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06680426451733583939noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4927755339790602529.post-84217603755410677372010-01-26T07:53:00.000-08:002010-01-26T08:22:45.371-08:00Prop 8 Trial Coverage Day 10: Prop 8 Supporters Get A Walloping in Court<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi0qU3F4kFOir4rHA4ZviFNKVeIEWGooBNdLfKPvXavYb8M8wSANPdauB6Gw1Ky5sVGASKBRCGXl37acyAjqTZCuq97DpuNUxmTysSONtbgIxiGDyt8ggIABNxLIdJE98TyN1PDy2kH6A/s1600-h/ken_miller.jpg"><img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 150px; height: 225px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi0qU3F4kFOir4rHA4ZviFNKVeIEWGooBNdLfKPvXavYb8M8wSANPdauB6Gw1Ky5sVGASKBRCGXl37acyAjqTZCuq97DpuNUxmTysSONtbgIxiGDyt8ggIABNxLIdJE98TyN1PDy2kH6A/s400/ken_miller.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5431080628686304898" border="0" /></a>Yesterday, attorneys for the plaintiffs challenging Prop 8 submitted incendiary evidence linking <span style="font-style: italic;">ProtectMarriage.com</span> (aka Yes on 8 campaign) to campaign messaging that claimed same-sex marriage would lead to polygamy, incest and bestiality. Proving this was part of campaign messaging is essential in providing proof that animus toward LGBT was a motivation for voters to take away marriage rights from gays and lesbians.<br /><br />Plaintiff's attorney Chris Desseaux played video of simulcast rally hosted by <span style="font-style: italic;">ProtectMarriage.com</span>, a rally that excited many of Prop 8 supporters to volunteer and vote against LGBT rights. Following are quotes pulled from the rally:<br /><blockquote style="font-style: italic;">"Then pedophiles would have to be allowed to marry 6-7-8 year olds. The man from Massachusetts who petitioned to marry his horse after marriage was instituted in Massachusetts. He'd have to be allowed to do so. Mothers and sons, sisters and brothers, any, any combination would have to be allowed."<br /><br />"Second of all, the polygamists are waiting in the wings because if a man can marry a man and a woman can marry a woman based on the fact that you have the right to marry whoever you want to marry, then the polygamists are going to use that exact same argument and they're probably going to win."<br /><br />"We are seeing the people of Massachusetts being desensitized day by day concerning homosexuality and becoming more and more adjusted to the idea of homosexual marriage being the law of the land and the homosexual agenda becoming more and more of a powerful element in the life of our society."<br /><br />"I think a helpful way to think about this is to compare it to 9/11 cuz a lot of us are asking-How does this directly affect us? Well I wasn't directly affected by 9/11 and my guess is most of you weren't either in the sense I didn't know somebody who crashed the plane in the building. I didn't know somebody who was in the building. But after 9/11 the world was a fundamentally different place and that has affected me. The change in the redefinition of marriage is the same type of thing."</blockquote>Chad Griffin Board President of the <a href="http://equalrightsfoundation.org/">American Foundation for Equal Rights</a> (AFER) the group responsible for the Prop 8 federal challenge, responded to yesterday's evidence by saying, "We saw again today how the Prop. 8 campaign sought to link marriage equality to incest, polygamy, bestiality and pedophilia to justify the restriction of people's civil rights. This clearly points to the discriminatory motivations and unconstitutionality of the initiative."<br /><br />Rick Jacobs of the Courage Campaign, whose quick typing has kept everyone abreast of the going-ons in court by liveblogging at <a href="http://prop8trialtracker.com/">Prop 8 Trial Tracker</a>, responded to the video, remarking, "This evidence is not just a smoking gun. It was an arsenal of incendiary devices directed at the LGBT community and voters. This is how the Prop 8 side won -- through fear and lies."<br /><br />The day did not get better for the defendants. After plaintiffs rested their case, Prop 8 proponents called the first of possibly only two witnesses to the stand. Kenneth Miller, a professor at Claremont McKenna College who teaches California politics and researches ballot initiatives, testified that LGBT citizens have political power and therefore do not need "suspect class" constitutional protection and therefore justifies ballot initiatives targeting them.<br /><br />Miller defined political power as access to large amounts of money and to political leaders. He pointed to the fact that the No on 8 campaign raised $43 million compared to Yes on 8's roughly $40 million. He also listed allied politicians and political leaders, such as Attorney General Jerry Brown and California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, both whom refused to defend Prop 8.<br /><br />However, David Boies first questioned the witnesses' "expert" status.<br /><br />From <a href="http://prop8trialtracker.com/2010/01/25/liveblogging-day-10-daily-summary/">Prop 8 Trial Tracker:</a><br /><blockquote>B: At your depo [sic] not aware of what Mattachine Society was.<br /><br />M: Yes, I did some research and found out that it was founded by Harry Hay in 1950.<br /><br />B: Role in 1970s period in which you say an expert.<br /><br />M: Yes.<br /><br />B: But you did not know about them when you wrote your report?<br /><br />M: Yes.<br /><br />B: In depo you were not aware of general social survey?<br /><br />M: No, but no know. [sic]<br /><br />B: You did not know who Alan Speer or Elaine Goldman were and that they were elected as first openly gay in 1976 and 9175 respectively?<br /><br />M: No. I did not know and do not. Know some were elected in1970s.<br /><br />B: We object to his testimony as expert out of area of initiatives. He does not even know the key facts.</blockquote>And later, during cross-examination, Miller experienced a <a href="http://prop8trialtracker.com/2010/01/25/liveblogging-day-10-daily-summary/">further bruising</a>.<br /><blockquote>B: When do initiatives provide for compromise and building consensus in society?<br /><br />M: I cannot say specifically, but in general it’s better to have informed deliberation, consensus building and compromise.<br /><br />B: How many would you give where initiatives fit the above?<br /><br />M: Maybe 3 or 4 or 5. Would have to do serious investigation to see how drafting done and campaign run.<br /><br />B: You have done no such research?<br /><br />M: Yes. I did large study of outcomes. Idealized picture of legislature. Legislatures do not always live up to those four opportunities. The institutional structure of the legislature set up for those four things, not initiative process.<br /><br />B: If there is going to be any refinement, it will be in drafting because it cannot be amended once it’s out there?<br /><br />M: In California, there is no opportunity to amend unless they pull it back.<br /><br />B: How often has that happened in California?<br /><br />M: Not infrequently.<br /><br />B: When was last time?<br /><br />M: I guess.<br /><br />B: I’m not asking you to guess. I’m asking you to tell me the last time.<br /><br />M: Many times it’s pulled back.<br /><br />B: When was last time in CA that signatures were gathered and then proponents pulled back to make compromise?<br /><br />M: Discussed in 2005 special, but did not happen.<br /><br />B: Give me last time in California?<br /><br />M: I can give you example in Colorado.<br /><br />B: We’re talking about Ca. You wanted to talk about CA.<br /><br />T: Objection, He’s badgering the witness.<br /><br />Judge Walker: Overruled. This is cross-examination.<br /><br />B: Good God man.</blockquote>"Looking at the institution of marriage, the state does treat heterosexual couples differently than same-sex couples," Miller testified under cross-examination. He also admitted that lesbians face greater bias than straight women, and directly stated a federal law that defines marriage as an opposite-sex union as well as Prop.8 as discriminatory.<br /><br />Miller was further harangued when he was asked to point out research that he had done himself versus what the defendant's attorneys had given him.<br /><br />Of yesterday's hearing, AFER says, "On Monday, Miller admitted that he based his testimony in part on materials provided to him by the attorneys defending Prop. 8, instead of relying on his own "expert" research. Beyond that, he testified that he could not remember whether attorneys provided at least 65 percent of the materials he based his research on, totaling well over 200 documents, articles, etc."<br /><br />AFER further states, "Miller made several admissions while on the stand that were damaging to the defendants and strengthening to the plaintiffs' case. He also repeatedly revealed his lack of knowledge of key information and research related to his area of purported expertise and this case."<br /><br />The cross-examination of Miller will continue today in court.<br /><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">Image: Kenneth Miller</span>Phillip Mintonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06680426451733583939noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4927755339790602529.post-21007268482814916012010-01-25T12:47:00.000-08:002010-01-25T12:59:14.468-08:00Prop 8 Trial Coverage: A Bad Case of PMS<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjOMq_ppDsT0z18Ynn-fwVRVF_zB33mlYgyISA9dB-oU8cgnmLDPeEk9xuqGn_p18C7EJmiGjdxNUGaug4zke9V94mn-d7UxrR5KudlBZ29i25ydn6Rv4N913YzYa3uyfj__j0jtrAdkg/s1600-h/zia.jpg"><img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 206px; height: 138px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjOMq_ppDsT0z18Ynn-fwVRVF_zB33mlYgyISA9dB-oU8cgnmLDPeEk9xuqGn_p18C7EJmiGjdxNUGaug4zke9V94mn-d7UxrR5KudlBZ29i25ydn6Rv4N913YzYa3uyfj__j0jtrAdkg/s400/zia.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5430782678736093762" border="0" /></a><span style="font-style: italic;">Guest blogger </span><a style="font-style: italic;" href="http://unitethefight.blogspot.com/2010/01/prop-8-trial-coverage-opening-remarks.html">Davina Kotulski</a><span style="font-style: italic;"> of </span><a style="font-style: italic;" href="http://davinakotulski.com/">DavinaKotulski.com</a><span style="font-style: italic;"> reports on the Prop 8 trial. This will be Davina's last guest post on the trial. She has done a great job in covering the plaintiff's arguments and witness testimonies. Thank you, Davina!</span><br /><br />I want to apologize for <a href="http://unitethefight.blogspot.com/2010/01/prop-8-trial-coverage-day-9-being-gay.html">Friday’s last blog</a>. To be honest, I had horrible PMS, protect-marriage syndrome. Protect Marriage Syndrome, or PMS, comes on when you have to sit for hours on end and listen to Yale and Cambridge educated experts testify that you are not insane, a child-molester, a degenerate, or an obsessive compulsive gender confused threat to civilization which I guess is supposed to make you feel good.<br /><br />Only, then it is followed up with having to listen to another lawyer attempt to deconstruct that witness’s testimony to the most absurd, out of context, details, for hours and hours and hours with the purpose of denying your basic dignity, worth as a human being and your constitutional rights.<br /><br />I had one hell of a case of bad PMS on Friday.<br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 255, 0);">GAYS ON PARADE (STRIKE THAT) TRIAL!</span><br /></div><br />In her testimony on January 15th, Helen Zia talked about being on trial at her work for being gay and how that depleted her, even caused her to burn her journal, which is like losing a limb to a writer.<br /><br />All LGBT people are on trial under Prop 8. Even though marriage equality supporters have brought forward this constitutional challenge to denying our right to marry, like Zia, we are on trial. We are on trial as parents, as citizens, as worthy human beings. There is nothing right about this.<br /><br />LGBT people are equal. We are as whole, perfect, and complete as our straight brothers and sisters. We too have hearts that beat and love. When we fall in love it is our hearts first that seek connection with our beloveds. It’s not about plumbing. Dr. Sylvia Rhue with the National Black Justice Coalition says, “When the hearts fit the parts fit.”<br /><br />The attorney asked Helen Zia, “How do you feel about Lia?”<br /><br />Zia replied, “ She’s my soul mate. I love her, she’s the person I want to spend the rest of my life, the most important person to me in the world.”<br /><br />Most husbands and wives, be they straight or gay, know exactly what Zia is talking about. That’s why we choose to marry, because we want to do everything we can to protect, honor, and cherish our beloved.<br /><br />Zia spoke of her and Lia, getting their domestic partnership licenses. “They issues dog licenses at the same counter,” she said and then discussed getting married in San Francisco in 2004 when it was legal for a little over a month. She spoke of the wedding reception she and Lia had planned with their families that would be attended by her mother, siblings, and some of her sibling’s children.<br /><br />“My marriage was invalidated a week before our wedding reception.” The attorney asks her, “How did that make you feel?”<br /><br />Anyone with a heart can guess how it made her feel.<br /><br />Zia said she felt “devastated, sad, grieved, horrible, our marriage had made us so happy, brought us so much joy, and was suddenly invalidated.” But what struck an even deeper chord for Zia was that she and Lia felt that their relationship was invalidated “and as human beings we were invalidated.”<br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 255, 0);">PARTNERS IN LIFE? DO YOU MEAN LIFE INSURANCE?</span><br /></div><br />Zia, and many of the other 4,000 couples like my wife, Molly and I, who were married in 2004 and later judicially invalidated, struggled to get through that dark time until we were able to marry again in 2008.<br /><br />“Getting married has presented numerous tangible and intangible benefits.” Zia said, “After marriage, my niece came up and said to Lia. “Auntie Lia, now you are really my auntie.”<br /><br />Marriage has also made a difference to how they relate to people. “People wondered ‘who is this person who is hanging on to you extra close?’<br /><br />‘This is my partner.’<br /><br />‘Partner, partner in what business?’<br /><br />We’d say, ‘we are partners in life.’ And get used to seeing this look on their face, ‘What does life mean? Do you mean life insurance?’”<br /><br />Marriage also made a difference Lia’s parents and family. “It’s a matter of how our families relate to people,” Zia said. “We show up to every family event and they ask ‘who is that?’ ‘This is Helen’s friend.’ They never got partner, now with marriage, they are able to say ‘Helen is my daughter-in-law.’<br /><br />For Helen’s mother too, marriage has given her a language to explain her relationship to Lia. “My mother would struggle to say this is Helen’s friend and now she would say ‘this is my daughter-in-law.’ That’s it. end of story. We are not partners in life or business. We are spouses. This is my wife.”<br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 255, 0);">MARRIAGE IS THE JOINING OF TWO FAMILIES</span><br /></div><br />“Marriage is not just about us.” Zia testified. “Our families related to each other differently. Marriage is the joining of two families. My family and Lia’s family relate to each other differently. My brother lived near my father-in-law for years. After we were married, Lia’s father stopped by my brother’s house and dropped things off. When he introduced his children he said ‘These are my daughters and this is my favorite daughter-in-law.’”<br /><br />Zia spoke of how both she and her wife Lia, shared “the important events in life,” together, births and deaths of family members. “When Lia’s father died, that’s when family comes together.” She spoke of how having marriage secured her place in the family. She was a part of the memorial and listed in the obituary. “Marriage defines who family is, who is in the circle.”<br /><br />While Zia spoke, the feeling tone in the overflow room was one of soft, gentleness. It was like being in a movie theatre where people are watching a romantic comedy. There were aahhs, warm laughter, and even a few tears as Zia recounted her relationship with Lia, what Lia means to her, and how having legal marriage has affected their life.<br /><br />It was deeply touching. As the court house closed up that day, one woman spoke with me and said, “I never wanted to get married until I heard Helen Zia speak. I want to know what it’s like to feel what she described.”<br /><br />In the words of John Lennon, “You may say I’m a dreamer, I’m not the only one. I hope someday you will join us and the world will live as one.”<br /><br />Look for my new book<span style="font-style: italic;"> Love Warriors: The Rise of the Marriage Equality Movement and Why It Will Prevail</span>, April 2010.<br /><br />For updates of the Prop 8 trial for January 24 and 25th, go to: Courage Campaign’s <a href="http://prop8trialtracker.com/">Prop 8 Trial Tracker</a>. I'm hitting the proverbial showers.<br /><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">Image: Helen Zia (left) and wife Lia (right).</span>Phillip Mintonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06680426451733583939noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4927755339790602529.post-41448627100209260952010-01-24T11:23:00.000-08:002010-01-24T17:40:36.107-08:00Prop 8 Trial Coverage: Day 9 Summary and Day 10 Preview; Closing Arguments Delayed<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjrLyrvIkUyXcXxwbnA9YEvnyLlvS7-EAGM2byVxfl0wSFmi3jSOSuSpb49sc4Qsxy-NaDrR6ZYBv-__8JpoDljgD1y1sflkj3OHV4sEmQx2DAEK05bVeoBr2guoiE-fPTUeZLqDhe7NA/s1600-h/prop8case.jpg"><img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 207px; height: 116px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjrLyrvIkUyXcXxwbnA9YEvnyLlvS7-EAGM2byVxfl0wSFmi3jSOSuSpb49sc4Qsxy-NaDrR6ZYBv-__8JpoDljgD1y1sflkj3OHV4sEmQx2DAEK05bVeoBr2guoiE-fPTUeZLqDhe7NA/s400/prop8case.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5430394833715863506" border="0" /></a>From the <a href="http://equalrightsfoundation.org/">American Foundation for Equal Rights</a>:<br /><blockquote><span style="font-style: italic;">Taking the stand Friday, Jan. 22 was Gregory M. Herek, Ph.D. a Professor of Psychology at the University of California at Davis. He testified about the nature of sexual orientation; that mainstream mental health professionals and behavioral scientists do not regard homosexuality as an illness or disorder, and that "change therapies" have been scientifically discounted, and can be extremely harmful. He endured more than five hours of cross examination without wavering from his testimony.<br /><br />Herek testified that sexual orientation was not readily changeable, and that “change therapies are especially harmful because they present view that homosexuality is an illness or disorder, so when therapy doesn't work, individuals are led to think it's a personal and moral failure."<br /><br />He also testified about the stigma and prejudice that gay men and lesbians face; the harm to gay men and lesbians and their families caused by Prop. 8; and how domestic partnerships are inferior to marriage and are linked with the stigma gay men and lesbians face.<br /><br />A "social stigma" gave "a level of permission to attack" gays and lesbians, Herek said. "[Marriage] is not simply a word. Just the fact we're here today suggests this is more than a word."<br /><br />Olson and Boies also showed Dr. Herek the deposition testimony of defendants' expert Daniel Robinson, one of the four expert witnesses dropped from their witness list. Robinson, like the three other experts dropped from their list, made statements damaging to the defendants' case and in support of the plaintiffs during his deposition, as was shown in court this week.<br /><br />For, example, the defendants' experts stated that equal marriage would increase family stability and improve the lives of children; that sexual orientation is not something that can be readily changed; and that gay men and lesbians have faced a long history of discrimination including violence – discrimination that continues today and that includes Prop. 8. They also acknowledge broad scientific and professional consensus in favor of equal marriage.</span></blockquote>Plaintiffs are expected to submit some more evidence and then <a href="http://www.kcbs.com/pages/6187597.php?">rest their case on Monday. Defendants will follow with their own witnesses.</a><br /><br />On Friday, <a href="http://prop8trialtracker.com/2010/01/22/judge-walker-announces-break-in-trial/">Judge Walker announced that he will delay closing arguments</a> for several weeks, indicating he will be closely examining submitted evidence and that he will have more questions during the closing. Arguments are expected to be scheduled in late February, early March.<br /><br />Links:<a href="http://prop8trialtracker.com/2010/01/22/liveblogging-day-9-daily-summary/"><br /></a><ul><li><a href="http://prop8trialtracker.com/2010/01/22/liveblogging-day-9-daily-summary/">Prop 8 Trial Tracker Liveblogging Day 9 Summary</a></li><li><a href="http://www.mercurynews.com/samesexmarriage/ci_14246816">Day 9 at Mercury News</a></li><li><a href="http://firedoglake.com/prop8trial/">Fire Dog Lake</a></li><li><a href="http://www.keennewsservice.com/2010/01/22/mid-day-report-day-9-prop-8-trial/">Lisa Keen at Keen News Service</a></li><li><a href="http://www.pamshouseblend.com/diary/14949/shannon-minter-perry-v-schwarzenegger-proceedings-day-9">Shannon Minter: Perry v. Schwarzenegger Proceedings, Day 9</a></li><li><a href="http://prop8legalcommentary.blogspot.com/2010/01/selection-of-articles-and-posts-on_22.html">More day 9 articles at Prop 8 and the Right to Marry</a></li><li><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703822404575019451080638036.html?mod=WSJ_WSJ_US_News_5">Wall Street Journal: Defense Set to Press Gay-Marriage Case </a></li></ul>Phillip Mintonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06680426451733583939noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4927755339790602529.post-58383311282843622362010-01-22T18:56:00.000-08:002010-01-22T19:17:28.590-08:00Hawaii Passes Veto Proof Civil Unions Bill - So What's Next?<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjs8TtalzBiWcD449J8OigT5BcSdAaCLaCBRGfuLahZ4dA7mdWy3q3jm7Cjl-VOA2hopRqimhdZqBzrP9x3M-MGz1SUarKvaTpFpkwIQbIKWhwCz6Z97vK3e1HVilKXoGr1zJeAC5cO0g/s1600-h/hawaii.jpg"><img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 209px; height: 208px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjs8TtalzBiWcD449J8OigT5BcSdAaCLaCBRGfuLahZ4dA7mdWy3q3jm7Cjl-VOA2hopRqimhdZqBzrP9x3M-MGz1SUarKvaTpFpkwIQbIKWhwCz6Z97vK3e1HVilKXoGr1zJeAC5cO0g/s400/hawaii.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5429767394193328754" border="0" /></a>I put this out on <a href="http://twitter.com/unitethefight">Twitter</a> earlier today because I didn't have time to put up a post, but for those who don't follow UTF on Twitter, here's the great news from the <a href="http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20100122/BREAKING01/100122039/Hawaii+Senate+passes+civil-unions+bill++18-7">Honolulu Advertiser</a>:<br /><blockquote style="font-style: italic;">"The Senate voted 18 to 7 to pass a civil-unions bill. The bill now moves to the House for consideration with a veto-proof majority. The bill would give same-sex and heterosexual couples the ability to enter into civil unions and receive the same state rights as marriage. The Senate gallery was overflowing with people as the Senate prepared to vote. Sen. Kidani offered a floor amendment to change the effective date of the civil-unions bill from Jan. 1, 2010 to Jan. 1, 2011. Kidani said the amendment is to correct a technical flaw and would give the Department of Health more time to implement civil unions. A retroactive date would not make the bill legally invalid, but could invite a veto by Gov. Lingle on technical grounds. Amending the bill could also delay its passage and allow opponents to put more pressure on Democrat senators who appeared ready to pass the bill today. Sen. Ihara, who supports civil unions, said he felt compelled to correct the technical flaw to remove a reason for a veto."</blockquote>Read <a href="http://www.hrcbackstory.org/2010/01/victory-in-the-hawaii-senate/">HRC's Backstory</a> on how the vote went down. All this, even after the <a href="http://www.towleroad.com/2009/02/thousands-rally-against-civil-unions-in-hawaii.html">major anti-LGBT protest</a> against the civil unions bill.<br /><br />The pressure is on the House now to pass the bill. They actually passed a similar bill last year, so hopefully we can get a repeat performance. A decision will be made next week whether they will take up the measure.<br /><br />Go to <a href="http://eqfed.org/familyequalityhi/home.html">Equality Hawaii</a> to get involved.Phillip Mintonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06680426451733583939noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4927755339790602529.post-24558711313180382322010-01-22T18:44:00.000-08:002010-01-22T18:51:22.358-08:00VIDEO: Olbermann Reacts to Supreme Court Ruling - "Be Prepared for the Ban on Same-Sex Marriage"Part 1<br /><br /><object width="410" height="332"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/72ZwG5vQ_04&border=1&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/72ZwG5vQ_04&border=1&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="410" height="332"></embed></object><br /><br />Part 2<br /><br /><object width="410" height="332"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/MeOwRy9_xsM&border=1&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/MeOwRy9_xsM&border=1&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="410" height="332"></embed></object>Phillip Mintonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06680426451733583939noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4927755339790602529.post-89697656133290683442010-01-22T15:11:00.001-08:002010-01-22T15:20:51.204-08:00Prop 8 Trial Coverage Day 9: Being Gay Is Bad For My Health, But Not For the Reasons You Think<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhihPkKaRi1Ml_eSTo5ZNx5tEUmCaALiiqzeMgK0PTjAa5WV2lM2LV9XJeUXxMYx1jK-emCTW4YmjW4u0GebOtH3_ukjMT5ejXRtBWfBS2JZ86yjbnHkzxmn-m357QPEqGFTOBnYZRLbw/s1600-h/davinakotulskiS.jpg"><img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 147px; height: 175px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhihPkKaRi1Ml_eSTo5ZNx5tEUmCaALiiqzeMgK0PTjAa5WV2lM2LV9XJeUXxMYx1jK-emCTW4YmjW4u0GebOtH3_ukjMT5ejXRtBWfBS2JZ86yjbnHkzxmn-m357QPEqGFTOBnYZRLbw/s400/davinakotulskiS.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5429706514641880050" border="0" /></a><span style="font-style: italic;">Guest blogger </span><a style="font-style: italic;" href="http://unitethefight.blogspot.com/2010/01/prop-8-trial-coverage-opening-remarks.html">Davina Kotulski</a><span style="font-style: italic;"> of </span><a style="font-style: italic;" href="http://davinakotulski.com/">DavinaKotulski.com</a><span style="font-style: italic;"> reports on the Prop 8 trial, day 9. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Oh, and happy birthday, Davina!</span></span><br /><br />I have not been to the gym since the Prop 8 trial started two weeks ago. I can’t even think of going to the gym in the morning when I have to race to San Francisco, go through the security obstacle course at the Federal building which includes taking off my shoes, jacket, turning my lap top on, going through a metal detector, surrendering my camera, bending over and coughing - okay it’s not that bad, but close.<br /><br />Then I take the elevator to the 19th floor, slam my coffee, compliments of Billy the Rockstar, turn on my computer, connect to the network, bring up Twitter, Facebook, AOL, my website, and word and stake out my territory.<br /><br />At lunch, I stuff my face with carbs, since the salad bar line is way too long, and then extra carbs to numb out the pain of the tortuous cross-examination. Girlfriend, I’m putting on the pounds!<br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 255, 0);">TODAY STINKS-LITERALLY!</span><br /></div><br />Being in the court room today feels like sitting in a college statistics class. It’s just hella boring, maybe because it’s my 40th birthday today and I came to the courtroom instead of getting a massage and doing something even mildly more fun than this today, like getting a root canal for example.<br /><br />Maybe it’s because there is something way too human transpiring in this room today. The overflow room is filled with people and for whatever reason there are terrible odors!! Who the hell keeps farting? What’s with the severe body odor and the hacking coughs?<br /><br />We gay people need some self-care. If you are sick, get into bed and drink plenty of liquids. Bathe-it does a body good. Wash your clothes. Leave the room if you need to pass gas.<br /><br />Oh shoot, now I’m sneezing.<br /><br />This may be my last blog for the day, especially since Yeson8 counsel is now talking about a lesbian who was married to a man and must have enjoyed having sex with him. I don’t think I can take listening to argument the Yeson8 counsel is trying to make.<br /><br />Just because gay people may have had str8 sex, that doesn’t mean they are str8. It means that we were straight-curious or hadn’t come out yet.<br /><br />The case will continue Monday and Tuesday and Judge Walker indicated today that the closing arguments will likely be scheduled in February. Marriage Equality USA plans to hold a vigil on the last day of closing arguments. There will also be a rally day of decision which will likely be within 90 days of closing arguments.<br /><br />In the meantime, send thoughts of equality to <a href="http://www.towleroad.com/2009/02/thousands-rally-against-civil-unions-in-hawaii.html">Hawaii</a>, <a href="http://unitethefight.blogspot.com/2010/01/indianas-anti-marriage-equality.html">Indiana</a>, and <a href="http://unitethefight.blogspot.com/2009/12/irony-in-new-hampshire-two-repeal.html">New Hampshire</a> where opponents of equality are trying to move us backwards.Phillip Mintonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06680426451733583939noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4927755339790602529.post-44561018316848912752010-01-22T12:43:00.000-08:002010-01-22T13:10:18.314-08:00Prop 8 Trial Coverage Day 9: All Major Psychological and Psychiatric Associations State Conversion Therapy Is Ineffective and Harms Gay People<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhI1qHx_fECQYhbOAAu9rhGtFsILhyphenhyphenbElIESa1x8_hBj5A8B0XigIVCChZ0ejlPMhyVMzd5Pcjx1A-q8TiAVHw7Oq6tvzMZ-oX8nnUR5IHDzzOCOS4loZicqwKk7RbrAWyA8Y_6Linoeg/s1600-h/prop8case.jpg"><img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 210px; height: 118px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhI1qHx_fECQYhbOAAu9rhGtFsILhyphenhyphenbElIESa1x8_hBj5A8B0XigIVCChZ0ejlPMhyVMzd5Pcjx1A-q8TiAVHw7Oq6tvzMZ-oX8nnUR5IHDzzOCOS4loZicqwKk7RbrAWyA8Y_6Linoeg/s400/prop8case.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5429672464221442402" border="0" /></a><span style="font-style: italic;">Guest blogger </span><a style="font-style: italic;" href="http://unitethefight.blogspot.com/2010/01/prop-8-trial-coverage-opening-remarks.html">Davina Kotulski</a><span style="font-style: italic;"> of </span><a style="font-style: italic;" href="http://davinakotulski.com/">DavinaKotulski.com</a><span style="font-style: italic;"> reports on the Prop 8 trial, day 9.<br /><br />Witness called today is Gregory M. Herek, Ph.D. a Professor of Psychology at the University of California at Davis. He will testify about the nature of sexual orientation; how mainstream mental health professionals and behavioral scientists regard homosexuality; the benefits conferred by marriage; stereotypes relating to lesbians and gay men; stigma and prejudice directed at lesbians and gay men; the harm to lesbians and gay men and their families as a consequence of being denied the right to marry; and how the institution of domestic partnerships differs from that of marriage and is linked with antigay stigma.</span><br /><br />I started the morning with gulping down my latte. While I was doing this and admiring the historic photos of San Francisco on the 19th floor in the federal building, I struck up a conversation with the other person in the hallway. It turned out that I was talking to Brian Woodward from the California Family Council. We talked about how we could find our commonalities and exchanged business cards.<br /><br />I then tossed my cup in the trash and found that the trial was already in full swing with psychologist Dr. Gregory Herek from the University of Davis. As a psychologist myself, I’ve been following Dr. Herek’s work for decades and even had the opportunity back in 2005 to be on a panel for marriage equality with him.<br /><br />Dr. Herek has an impressive record of publications on sexual orientation and hate crimes.<br /><br />Dr. Herek discusses the American Psychiatric Association’s removal of homosexuality from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM) in 1973.<br /><br />Dr. Evelyn Hooker, a psychologist who published "The Adjustment of the Male Overt Homosexual" about her research on psychological testing of gay men and heterosexual men, helped create a body of psychological research that led to homosexuality being removed from the DSM.<br /><br /> <div style="clear: both;">Hooker assessed both gay and straight men and then had experts review the tests and select who was gay . The experiment, which was repeated by other researchers, demonstrated that most gay men demonstrated the same level of social adjustment as heterosexual men in the general population.<br /></div><br />Dr. Herek spoke about how most gay, lesbian, bisexual people do not believe that their sexual orientation is a choice. He referenced a study completed in Sacramento, California with 2,200 participants. Subjects were asked if they felt being LGB was a choice.<br /><br />-87% gay men said they believed it was not a choice<br /><br />-70% lesbians said they believed it was not a choice<br /><br />-59% bi men said they believed it was not a choice<br /><br />-45% bi women said they believed it was not a choice<br /><br />Herek was asked if he believed if reparative therapy was effective. Reparative therapy, sometimes called conversion therapy, is intended to change a gay person’s sexual orientation to heterosexual.<br /><br />Herek said “When we use the word effective with therapeutic intervention it means it consistently works, produces the outcome that we expect without causing harm to the individual…No, it is not effective.”<br /><br />Herek notes that a taskforce was created to evaluate the effectiveness of these therapies. According to Herek, “the taskforce provided a report on their effectiveness and safety of reparative therapy. In their review of the literature, they found that there were not many high quality studies that had been done to speak to the effectiveness of these studies.”<br /><br />Studies were then conducted and the APA Taskforce concluded that reparative therapy does not reduce same-sex attraction, has a limited effectiveness, and does some harm to individuals, including depression and anxiety.<br /><br />Herek reported that the American Psychiatric Association, American Psychological Association, American Counselors Association, American Teachers Association, and the American Pediatric Society do not support reparative therapies, believe they are ineffective, and they believe that this harms youth.<br /><br />Herek mentions a survey of married same-sex couples in Massachusetts released in May 2009 by the Massachusetts Department of Public Health entitled the Health and Marriage Equality in Massachusetts Survey.<br /><br />According to an executive summary of the survey published by the Williams Institute (May 2009), the survey found that same-sex married couples reported that marriage had a positive impact on their lives. Seventy-two per cent (72 %) of the married individuals reported “feeling more committed” to their spouse and “70% felt more accepted by their communities.”<br /><br />Individuals also reported other important benefits from marriage, including “feeling that they have to worry less about legal problems (48%),” being able to give their same-sex spouse health insurance (30%), coming out to co-workers (82%), and health care providers (82%), and for those raising children, feeling that their children are “happier and better off as a result of their marriage (93%).” Especially notable was the finding that 62% of individuals reported that being married increased their family’s acceptance of their partner.<br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 255, 0);">1 IN 5 LGBT PEOPLE EXPERIENCE VIOLENCE IN THEIR LIFETIME</span><br /></div><br />Herek discusses the stigma against LGBT people. He says that many heterosexuals experience “negative feelings towards lesbians and gay men, they even feel disgusted” by gay people. Herek mentions the violence against LGBT people and how the FBI and State of California track hate crimes against LGB people.<br /><br />According to Herek, 1 in 5 LGBT people experienced some sort of violence in the course of their lifetimes. Others, he reports have had some experience of discrimination in employment.<br /><br />Herek speaks about how if two men walked down the street holding hands that would attract violence and harassment.<br /><br />FYI-January 30 is international same-sex hand holding day.<br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 255, 0);">LGBT YOUTH ARE BULLIED IN SCHOOL AND HARMED BY THE NOTION THAT THEIR SEXUAL ORIENTATION CAN BE CHANGED THROUGH THERAPY</span><br /></div><br />Herek also mentions harassment and bullying against youth in schools.<br /><br />While not discussed by Herek, I present you with findings from GLSEN’s 2007 National School Climate Survey which I found shocking.<br /><br />• 91% of LGBT middle school students said they experienced harassment at school because of their sexual orientation.<br /><br />• 59% reported physical harassment<br /><br />• 39% reported physical assault, compared to 20% of high school students<br /><br />• 82% heard names like “faggot” and “dyke”<br /><br />• 63% heard staff make homophobic remarks<br /><br />• 50% of LGBT middle school students surveyed reported missing at least one day of school in the past month because they felt unsafe.<br /><br />• LGBT students who missed school because of safety had lower GPAs than other LGBT students (2.4 to 2.9)<br /><br />• 57% of students who experience harassment never report it because they fear the teachers won’t help or it will only make things worse.<br /><br />• School safety influences academic success.<br /><br />• LGBT youth who feel unsafe, miss school more frequently, and have lower GPAs than youth who are not threatened, this leads LGBTIQ students to drop out.<br /><br />• Approx. 28% of gay and lesbian youth drop out of high school because of discomfort (due to verbal and physical abuse) in the school environment. Remafedi, Gary. (1987). "Male Homosexuality: The Adolescent's Perspective." Pediatrics, Issue 79. pp. 326-337.<br /><br />• Bullying and violence is even higher for gender non-conforming kids.<br /><br />On a side note, the movie Prayers for Bobby is a great resource on illustrating the harm done to LGBT youth when they are pressured to change something they cannot change.<br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 255, 0);">KINSEY’S CONTINUUM</span><br /></div><br />During the cross-examination, Herek is asked about sexual orientation and how it is defined. He mentions Kinsey’s continuum of sexual orientation, which I’ve provided for you below. Herek says that as a culture we’ve shortened Kinsey’s continuum to 3 categories.<br /><br />1. Heterosexual<br /><br />2. Homosexual (gay/lesbian)<br /><br />3. Bisexual<br /><br />However, Kinsey’s continuum is more exact and people's behaviors, attractions, and identity are not always consistent. For example, someone’s sexual experience/behavior might be a 0-exclusively heterosexual, but their attraction is to members of the same-sex. Additionally, someone might have the experience of a 3, below, but identity as heterosexual.<br /><br />• 0- Exclusively heterosexual experience<br /><br />• 1- Predominately het exp. only incidental homosexual exp.<br /><br />• 2- Predominately het exp. but more than incidental homosexual exp.<br /><br />• 3- Equally het & homosexual experiences<br /><br />• 4- Predominately homosexual exp. but more than incidental het exp.<br /><br />• 5- Predominately homosexual exp. only incidental het exp.<br /><br />• 6- Exclusively homosexual experience<br /><br />And with that, it’s time for a break!Phillip Mintonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06680426451733583939noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4927755339790602529.post-29021053160681318802010-01-22T12:30:00.000-08:002010-01-22T13:29:31.156-08:00Prop 8 Trial Coverage Day 8: Roundup<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjK85PY1LuZ5KdLBSUwOtqBW0z3irE_yNB1Q2KmGqjr6tt8VheMVN8WCnumtQsCeNODIaitaphVbazkSpqCsLk5v59pxhsSpDTWBJT_1BgeiDWugNL6hRVOXqDEBN2vvQPEktqcNL-p8Q/s1600-h/prop8case.jpg"><img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 210px; height: 118px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjK85PY1LuZ5KdLBSUwOtqBW0z3irE_yNB1Q2KmGqjr6tt8VheMVN8WCnumtQsCeNODIaitaphVbazkSpqCsLk5v59pxhsSpDTWBJT_1BgeiDWugNL6hRVOXqDEBN2vvQPEktqcNL-p8Q/s400/prop8case.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5429431583335301650" border="0" /></a><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 255, 0);">UPDATE 1/22/10:</span> A summary from the <a href="http://equalrightsfoundation.org/">American Foundation for Equal Rights</a>, the group behind the challenge to Prop 8 (read <a href="http://www.equalrightsfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Perry-Vol-8-1-21-10.pdf">full transcript of hearing here</a>):<br /><blockquote style="font-style: italic;">As an Official Proponent of Prop. 8, Tam is responsible for putting the initiative on the ballot and taking over its defense in court by intervening in Perry v. Schwarzenegger. On the stand today, he confirmed that he “supervised the preparation of the appropriate language of Proposition 8.”<br /><br />Boies questioned Tam about several statements against marriage equality, including a pro-Prop. 8 email that stated: “They lose no time in pushing the gay agenda — after legalizing same-sex marriage, they want to legalize prostitution. What will be next? On their agenda list is: legalize having sex with children;" that "The San Francisco City Government is under the rule of homosexuals” and that gay men were twelve times more likely to molest children.<br /><br />The court has previously viewed Yes on Prop. 8 ads urging voters to “protect our children.” Now it’s apparent that this message was working in concert with the type of discriminatory communications we heard today from an Official Proponent of Prop. 8.<br /><br />"That [Same-sex marriage] would lead to incest. That would lead to polygamy. If this is a civil right, what would prevent other groups form asking for the same right,” Tam testified in court today.<br /><br />"It is very important our children won't grow up to fantasize or think about ‘should I marry Jane or John when I grow up,'” Tam testified in court today.<br /><br />Tam was also questioned in court about a media interview he gave regarding his work to pass Prop. 8 in which he said: “We hope to convince Asian-Americans that gay marriage will encourage more children to experiment with the gay lifestyle and that the lifestyle comes with all kinds of disease.”<br /><br />Tam also testified to working with ProtectMarriage.com, the lead pro-Prop. 8 campaign committee, on signature gathering, messaging, rallies, debates, weekly grassroots conferences and in signing a "statement of unity" between himself and the campaign, which laid out a formal campaign structure including him and his organization, the Traditional Family Coalition. He also noted that he spent the majority of his working hours on passing Prop. 8 from January to November 2008.<br /><br />Today also continued the cross-examination of plaintiff expert Dr. Gary Segura, who testified yesterday about the relative political power of gays and lesbians as a class of citizens, and their level of political vulnerability.</blockquote>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">Original Post 1/21/10 9:00 PM PST</span><br /><br />Guest blogger Davina Kotulski will be back blogging tomorrow from the court room - due to a last minute scheduling change of the trial, she wasn't able to cover it today. So here's a good roundup of blogs and articles about today's hearing. (<a href="http://unitethefight.blogspot.com/2010/01/prop-8-trial-coverage-day-8-hostile.html">See day 8 preview post</a>.)<a href="http://prop8trialtracker.com/2010/01/21/liveblogging-day-8-daily-summary/"><br /></a><ul><li><a href="http://prop8trialtracker.com/2010/01/21/liveblogging-day-8-daily-summary/">Prop 8 Trial Liveblogging Day 8: Daily Summary</a></li><li><a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/01/gays-vulnerable-at-ballot-box-professor-argues-at-prop-8-trial.html">LA Times: Gays vulnerable at ballot, professor argues at Prop 8 trial</a></li><li><a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/01/an-official-proponent-of-proposition-8-testified-today-he-was-involved-in-disseminating-claims-that-same-sex-marriage-could-l.html">LA Times: Prop 8 proponent says he argued that gay marriage could lead to legalizing pedophilia</a></li><li><a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/01/19/national/a093752S58.DTL">Lisa Leff for AP: Prop 8 backer stands by views on pedophilia</a></li><li><a href="http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_14238255?source=most_viewed&nclick_check=1">Mercury News Living Coverage Day 8</a></li><li><a href="http://firedoglake.com/prop8trial/">Fire Dog Lake coverage</a></li><li><a href="http://www.pamshouseblend.com/diary/14931/shannon-minter-perry-v-schwarzenegger-proceedings-day-8">Shannon Minter: Perry v. Schwarzenegger Proceedings, Day 8</a></li></ul>Phillip Mintonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06680426451733583939noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4927755339790602529.post-7794137068180421162010-01-21T20:50:00.000-08:002010-01-21T20:58:09.382-08:00Prop 8 Trial Coverage Day 7: Video of Witness Depositions<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjpiyVcrg2BZf43Pf8Gtb8JyUQJ0Sk3jaqyAhTk2D4yoZakbzlCX4uiY4LAhjv7g0LCJLeqkvidBILMV0i2B7SgRqF-C953eVQYnt1xJGdTtBIlBXG9ScGFSp0UzaID9hw2vVxYjZ10kw/s1600-h/prop8case.jpg"><img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 207px; height: 116px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjpiyVcrg2BZf43Pf8Gtb8JyUQJ0Sk3jaqyAhTk2D4yoZakbzlCX4uiY4LAhjv7g0LCJLeqkvidBILMV0i2B7SgRqF-C953eVQYnt1xJGdTtBIlBXG9ScGFSp0UzaID9hw2vVxYjZ10kw/s400/prop8case.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5428934085128515554" border="0" /></a><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 255, 0);">CORRECTION:</span> Numerous blogs yesterday, including UTF, reported that the following quote came from an LDS document submitted as evidence:<br /><blockquote><span style="font-style: italic;">With respect to Prop. 8 campaign, key talking points will come from campaign, but cautious, strategic, not to take the lead so as to provide plausible deniability or respectable distance so as not to show that church is directly involved.</span></blockquote>In actuality, <a href="http://www.equalrightsfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Transcript-from-Wed.pdf">court transcripts</a> (PDF pgs 1628-1637) indicate that the above quote was plaintiff witness Professor Gary Seguara's characterization of the document, but he was not quoting the text itself.<br /><blockquote style="font-style: italic;">Q. As a political scientist, what is it about this document and these statements that is relevant to analyzing the balance of political power between gay men and lesbians and religious organizations to the extent they're involved in political activities in California?<br /><br />A. Well, with respect to the Proposition 8 campaign, it makes it clear that there was a sort of two-way flow of information, where strategic talking points were being provided to religious leaders by the campaign. And, in turn, the religious leaders were providing volunteers to the campaign. But there was this cautious strategic not-to-take-the-lead notion so as to provide a -- I don't know, plausible deniability or respectable distance between the church organization per se and the actual campaign.</blockquote>The actual document that Segura read and referred to stated:<br /><span style="font-style: italic;"></span><blockquote><span style="font-style: italic;">"He has also been hired by the coalition to do polling work for Prop 8. The main California grass roots leaders are in the process of being called as, quote, area directors, end quote, with the responsibility for areas that generally correspond to each of the 17 LDS coordinating councils for the LDS mission boundaries. Thereafter, priesthood leaders will call local prop coordinators over each stake and leaders by zip code within each ward - potentially working not only with LDS, but also LDS volunteers."</span><br /></blockquote><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 255, 0);">UPDATE 1/20/09 8:25PM :</span> Articles for Day 7.<br /><br />Prop 8 Trial Tracker: <a href="http://prop8trialtracker.com/2010/01/20/an-explosive-afternoon/">"An Explosive Afternoon: LDS Church"</a>:<br /><blockquote style="font-style: italic;">This is perhaps the most explosive bit of all, from a document between the LDS Church and the campaign:<br /><blockquote>With respect to Prop. 8 campaign, key talking points will come from campaign, but cautious, strategic, not to take the lead so as to provide plausible deniability or respectable distance so as not to show that church is directly involved.</blockquote>Get that? The LDS Church intentionally worked to hide behind the scenes to disguise their involvement in the public realm. The LDS Church is well aware that the general public does not have the most favorable opinion of them. Attention on their involvement could have hurt their cause, namely passing Prop 8.</blockquote>Also from Prop 8 Trial Tracker: <a href="http://prop8trialtracker.com/2010/01/20/your-right-hand-is-my-left-hand-the-lds-church-and-the-prop-8-campaign/">"Your Right Hand is My Left Hand: The LDS Church and the Prop 8 Campaign"</a>:<br /><p style="font-style: italic;"></p><blockquote><p style="font-style: italic;">For about half an hour, Boutrous and Pugno were arguing about the admissibility, and then the names of people, in a document from a Mr. Jansson The interesting part of this is just how these two organizations became two sides of the same coin for about six months in 2008.</p> <p style="font-style: italic;">Going over all these documents, we learned that over 20,000 Mormons were out door-knocking on the final few weekends. We learned that Mr. Jansson was playing a dual role, both as a leader within the Mormon hierarchy as well as in the protectmarriage.com executive board. We learned that Mormon/LDS Church leaders were powerful in the structure throughout the campaign. Of course, that was no real surprise.</p></blockquote><p style="font-style: italic;"></p>More great reporting on Courage Campaign (CC)'s <a href="http://prop8trialtracker.com/">Prop 8 Trial Tracker</a>. (Oh, and check this out: Prop 8 people trying to sue them over CC's parody of ProtectMarriage.com logo. <a href="http://prop8trialtracker.com/2010/01/20/restraining-order-denied-logo-staying-up-for-now/">CC won the first round, but it isn't over</a>.)<br /><br />Check out P<a href="http://prop8trialtracker.com/2010/01/20/liveblogging-day-7-daily-summary/">rop 8 Trial Tracker Day 7 summary</a>, and <a href="http://www.mercurynews.com/top-stories/ci_14229632">Mercury News</a> also has a full roundup of day 7 live blogging.<br /><br />-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">Original post 1/20/10 at 12:25pm PST</span><br /><br />Unfortunately, guest blogger Davina Kotulski has to work today so will not be able to cover day 7 of the Prop 8 trial. I also have to work today (which is why I'm delayed in posting), but I will try my best to round up today's coverage. Check back to this post for further updates.<br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 255, 0);">American Foundation for Equal Rights (AFER) Summarizes Day 6</span><br /></div><br /><a href="http://equalrightsfoundation.org/">AFER</a>, the group behind the challenge to Prop 8, released this summary of day 6 of the Prop 8 trial which was Tuesday, December 19.<br /><blockquote style="font-style: italic;">The court has so far been presented with compelling testimony from gay men and lesbians about the discrimination they have experienced first-hand, in addition to eminent experts from Yale, Cambridge, Harvard, UCLA and other prestigious institutions who have testified to the harm caused by Prop. 8 and the lack of a justification for its denial of fundamental rights, creating a powerful, fact-based record of evidence pointing to the unconstitutionality of Prop. 8.<br /><br />Testifying today under the direct examination of City Attorney Dennis Herrera was Jerry Sanders, the current Republican Mayor and former Police Chief of the City of San Diego. He spoke about his decision, as Mayor, to support the City of San Diego’s participation in an amicus brief advocating against the exclusion of same-sex couples from marriage and why he concluded supporting marriage equality was and is in the best interest of local government and the larger community (powerful video of that announcement can be found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAOkwjQdm6Q).<br /><br />"If government tolerates discrimination against anyone it is very easy for citizens to do the same thing," Sanders testified in court.<br /><br />"I had been prejudiced,” Sanders testified in reference to his previous opposition to marriage equality. “I was saying one group of people did not deserve the same respect, did not deserve the same symbolism of marriage, and I was saying their marriages were less important than those of heterosexuals."<br /><br />“I think denying marriage equality is just as wrong as telling blacks that they couldn’t use white-only drinking fountains. It’s government action that’s founded in prejudice,” Sanders said to reporters at the courthouse. “The first step towards equality in society is equality under the law.”<br /><br />Testifying after Sanders was M.V. Lee Badgett, Ph.D., a professor of economics at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst, who spoke about the harm caused by Prop. 8.<br /><br />"Prop. 8 has inflicted substantial economic harm on same-sex couples and their children who live here in California,” Badgett testified. “I have the opinion that letting same-sex couples marry would not have any adverse effect on the institution of marriage or on different sex couples.”<br /></blockquote><br />After testifying, Mayor Jerry Sanders and his lesbian daughter Lisa spoke to reporters. Journalist Rex Wockner has coverage of the press conference on <a href="http://wockner.blogspot.com/2010/01/mayor-sanders-and-lisa-talk-to.html">his website</a>.<br /><br /><div style="text-align: center; font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 255, 0);">Witnesses for Day 7, January 29</div><br />From AFER:<br /><br />- Ryan Kendall, a gay man who will testify about the “conversation therapy” he underwent in his youth and how he has been affected by discrimination<br /><br />-Gary M. Segura, Ph.D,Professor of American Politics in the Department of Political Science at Stanford University. He will testify about the relative political power of gays and lesbians as a class of citizens, and their level of political vulnerability.<br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: rgb(255, 255, 0);"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Video of Witness Depositions</span></span><br /></div><br />Again, the amazing AFER comes through. I'll just quote them directly. Again.<br /><blockquote><span style="font-style: italic;">The Olson/Boies legal team today introduced into evidence videos of the depositions of Paul Nathanson, Ph.D. and Katherine Young, Ph.D., who are among the experts dropped by the defendants from their witness list. In the videos, Nathanson and Young make several statements that are harmful to the defendants' case and that support the plaintiffs' position.<br /><br />Both are professors at McGill University. They were questioned by David Boies.</span></blockquote><br /><br />AFER provided video of the depositions. Here they are below. First, Katherine Young, Ph.D.<br /><br /><object height="332" width="410"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/KmactPnxYvM&hl=en_US&fs=1&"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/KmactPnxYvM&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="332" width="410"></embed></object><br /><br />Paul Nathanson, Ph.D.<br /><br /><object height="332" width="410"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/FylixiSFwqg&hl=en_US&fs=1&"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/FylixiSFwqg&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="332" width="410"></embed></object><br /><br /><blockquote><span style="font-style: italic;"><br />Nathanson and Young both state that equal marriage would increase family stability, improve the lives of children, and that gay men and lesbians have faced a long history of discrimination including violence. They also acknowledge broad scientific and professional consensus in favor of equal marriage.<br /><br />The backers of Prop. 8 told the court this week that they were dropping four witnesses from their witness list, leaving only two. They claimed this was due to a reluctance to testify because of cameras in the courtroom. The trial, however, is not being broadcast. We have now seen three depositions of the withdrawn experts, which would form the basis for their cross-examinations, that resulted in the experts making admissions that disagreed with the backers of Prop. 8's case, which is what actually led to the last-minute witness list reduction.<br /><br />Plaintiffs’ attorneys last week introduced video of the deposition of Loren Marks of Louisiana State University, who had been expected to testify for the defendants that the ideal family structure is for children to be raised by two married "biological" parents, which Marks said meant the genetic parents.<br /><br />Marks admitted that he only read parts of the studies he relied upon in making his conclusion. It was then pointed out that those studies actually defined "biological" parents in a way that included adoptive parents -- not just genetic parents. Marks then stated that the word "biological" should be deleted from the report he prepared for this case, and also admitted he considered no research on gay and lesbian parents, effectively revealing his research as fatally flawed.</span></blockquote><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: rgb(255, 255, 0);"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Live Blogging</span></span><br /></div><br />Live blogging of the trial can be found at Courage Campaign's <a href="http://prop8trialtracker.com/">Prop 8 Trial Tracker</a>. (One a side note: Prop 8 proponents are suing Courage Campaign for Prop 8 parody logo they're using for their site. Interesting development. <a href="http://prop8trialtracker.com/2010/01/20/PROTECTMARRIAGE-COM-SUES-COURAGE-CAMPAIGN-INSTITUTE-OVER-LOGO/">Read about it here.</a>)<br /><br />You can find more blogging at <a href="http://firedoglake.com/prop8trial/">Fire Dog Lake</a> and <a href="http://www.mercurynews.com/top-stories/ci_14229632">Mercury News</a>.<br /><br />For a great Twitter list of Prop 8 trial tweets, check out <a href="http://twitter.com/nobackseats/prop-8-fed-trial">No Back Seats' list</a>.<br /><br />I will post more today's hearing later tonight. Be sure to check back!Phillip Mintonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06680426451733583939noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4927755339790602529.post-71927376000543528382010-01-21T09:13:00.000-08:002010-01-21T09:30:39.174-08:00Prop 8 Trial Coverage Day 8: Hostile Witness Dr. Tam to Take the Stand<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiFB1kc_xq80HPj092p-P0VcPeODWgob_SKCCqjR2VO7R-sp0yUg0WY_ZqLeiI_I3Ua8P93JDy2AxrdVNfNgaA17E1dlzIvzLeI0Y_6darRO1wuRKnuoO6R8cp4YVMWdySNx39S3gpd9Q/s1600-h/bill+tam.jpg"><img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 205px; height: 195px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiFB1kc_xq80HPj092p-P0VcPeODWgob_SKCCqjR2VO7R-sp0yUg0WY_ZqLeiI_I3Ua8P93JDy2AxrdVNfNgaA17E1dlzIvzLeI0Y_6darRO1wuRKnuoO6R8cp4YVMWdySNx39S3gpd9Q/s400/bill+tam.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5429246516724060946" border="0" /></a>Today should prove even more interesting in the court room of the Prop 8 trial. Dr. William Tam, who claimed during the Prop campaign that if the initiative did not pass that <a href="http://unitethefight.blogspot.com/2010/01/discriminatory-motivations-of-prop-8.html">gays and lesbians would next try to legalize sex with children</a>, will be taking the stand as a hostile witness.<br /><br />An excerpt from his deposition:<br /><blockquote><span style="font-style: italic;">Question: “And it is your understanding that part of the gay agenda is legalizing underage sex?”<br />Answer: “Right.” (Page 43 of deposition)<br /><br />“They lose no time in pushing the gay agenda — after legalizing same-sex marriage, they want to legalize prostitution. What will be next? On their agenda list is: legalize having sex with children.” (Pro-Prop. 8 email by Tam, page 78 of deposition)<br /><br />“We hope to convince Asian-Americans that gay marriage will encourage more children to experiment with the gay lifestyle and that the lifestyle comes with all kinds of disease.” (Pro-Prop. 8 media interview by Tam, page 77 of deposition)</span></blockquote>The taped deposition was played in court last week by the plaintiffs last week. Though Tam dropped out as a witness for the defendants (and they were probably grateful given that they want to hide this element of the Prop 8 campaign from the court), the Olson/Boies team as called him to the stand anyway.<br /><br />The <a href="http://equalrightsfoundation.org/">American Foundation for Equal Rights</a> sent this bio on another witness to take the stand today.<br /><blockquote><span style="font-style: italic;">- Gregory M. Herek, Ph.D. a Professor of Psychology at the University of California at Davis. He will testify about the nature of sexual orientation, how mainstream mental health professionals and behavioral scientists regard homosexuality, benefits conferred by marriage, stereotypes relating to lesbians and gay men, stigma and prejudice directed at lesbians and gay men, the harm to lesbians and gay men and their families as a consequence of being denied the right to marry, and how the institution of domestic partnerships differs from that of marriage and is linked with antigay stigma.</span></blockquote>Phillip Mintonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06680426451733583939noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4927755339790602529.post-72761119534298870942010-01-21T08:59:00.000-08:002010-01-21T09:12:02.376-08:00VIDEO: Prop 8 Trial Reenactment Preview PostedLast week, I posted on filmmaker John Ireland's project to produce <a href="http://unitethefight.blogspot.com/2010/01/prop-8-trial-re-enactments-to-be.html">reenactments of the Prop 8 trial</a>. Today, he and fellow filmmaker John Ainsworth have posted a trailer.<br /><br /><object width="410" height="332"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/RQRi2Tp8OjA&rel=0&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/RQRi2Tp8OjA&rel=0&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="410" height="332"></embed></object><br /><br />Ireland told the <a href="http://www.advocate.com/article.aspx?id=105704">Advocate</a>, "we jump right into the plaintiffs story. They tell firsthand why it is important for them to be married. That narrative is then propelled through the rest of the drama by the professionals—the litigators and the academics. There’s quite a drama that unfolds after the plaintiffs arrive, but really it’s about those people’s stories."<br /><br />Read more about the project at <a href="http://www.marriagetrial.com/">MarriageTrial.com</a>.Phillip Mintonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06680426451733583939noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4927755339790602529.post-52757848837726574522010-01-20T15:30:00.000-08:002010-01-20T20:15:55.550-08:00Group Behind Federal Prop 8 Challenge Post Trial Transcripts<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhMNJRtWv64t91NEZGedWPG3xdGsYO_iRixGKd9kqOi-Sygh3BTOZ34rw79yI9ntTa0e9U1uPmft15vz8XkPU3EzyiSnjlQxf5R_2KdYdQEvkXDH6T8BKWmBEFCCtZODciWqWtDkevM7A/s1600-h/afer.jpg"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 46px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhMNJRtWv64t91NEZGedWPG3xdGsYO_iRixGKd9kqOi-Sygh3BTOZ34rw79yI9ntTa0e9U1uPmft15vz8XkPU3EzyiSnjlQxf5R_2KdYdQEvkXDH6T8BKWmBEFCCtZODciWqWtDkevM7A/s400/afer.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5428938855885828722" border="0" /></a>Yusef Robb, spokesperson for the American Foundation for Equal Rights, the group behind the federal challenge to Prop 8, sent the following:<br /><blockquote style="font-style: italic;">The American Foundation for Equal Rights will, starting today, post to our website at <a href="http://www.equalrightsfoundation.org/our-work/hearing-transcripts/">http://www.equalrightsfoundation.org/our-work/hearing-transcripts/</a>, transcripts of the Perry v. Schwarzenegger trial.<br /><br />Available immediately are the transcripts from all past days of trial. Yesterdays transcript is still forthcoming.<br /><br />Please note that while we hope to post these transcripts daily, their availability is subject to change.<br /><br />Please note these transcripts may be read, linked to and quoted from, but not reposted or sold in any way. </blockquote>It's great to see AFER do an amazing job of keeping the Prop 8 trial transparent and accessible. Though we faced a setback with the Supreme Court's ruling banning the broadcast of the trial, thanks to AFER (and many live bloggers), the public still is being made aware of what happens in the court room, with truth being revealed everyday.Phillip Mintonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06680426451733583939noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4927755339790602529.post-49217550185395649232010-01-20T13:58:00.001-08:002010-01-20T14:07:30.506-08:00Indiana's Anti-Marriage Equality Amendment Gets Approval for Full Senate Vote<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjXpoMqM7Rkbl7NSxBQSGoNrZ9pfhOi_AoX-PjkVDOU-owP9jWuELOBxIDuxVxhpG96LJKcPjF_STRlmRZNww1Jn8HhCsMTkuBrKqrP6rGhONypo_7uWaXz0PdLE22kIO7eu93Pvkd6oA/s1600-h/GayIndianaFlag.gif"><img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 206px; height: 162px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjXpoMqM7Rkbl7NSxBQSGoNrZ9pfhOi_AoX-PjkVDOU-owP9jWuELOBxIDuxVxhpG96LJKcPjF_STRlmRZNww1Jn8HhCsMTkuBrKqrP6rGhONypo_7uWaXz0PdLE22kIO7eu93Pvkd6oA/s400/GayIndianaFlag.gif" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5428946732720016322" border="0" /></a><a href="http://www.indiana.edu/%7Eglbtserv/?p=824">This is very upsetting</a>.<br /><blockquote style="font-style: italic;">This morning, Wednesday, January 20, 2010, the Indiana Senate Judiciary Committee passed Senate Joint Resolution 13 (SJR-13) by a vote of 6 to 4. Approving the bill were Senators Bray, Zakas, Head, Holman, Schneider, and Steele. Voting no were Senators Lanane, Randolph, Taylor, and Broden. Senator Alting was not in the room for the vote. The Marriage Discrimination Amendment is now eligible for consideration by the full Senate.<br /><br />So called “pro-family” organizations like Advance America, the Indiana Family Institute and the American Family Association of Indiana are keeping the pressure on Indiana legislators to advance this harmful proposal. It is not time to rest – we need to keep our own pressure going to stop this legislation.</blockquote>If the state legislature votes in favor of the amendment, both House and Senate, it will then go to the electorate as a ballot initiative. If it passes, the state's constitution will be amended to define marriage as between one man and one woman.<br /><br /><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 255, 0);">ACTION:</span> Go to Indiana Equality and attend their <a href="http://eqfed.org/ie/events/learnlobbyinfluence2010/details.tcl">"Learn. Lobby. Influence"</a> training seminar and <a href="http://district.iga.in.gov/DistrictLookup/">contact your representative</a>, urging them to vote NO to the marriage amendment.Phillip Mintonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06680426451733583939noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4927755339790602529.post-5855287034556648262010-01-19T16:49:00.000-08:002010-01-19T16:58:29.315-08:00Prop 8 Trial Coverage Day 6: The Sky Is Falling, the Sky Is Falling<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhx_p1Xx8eMYXLcN4fgrZmDk6LkIHZCUcTqXttsMl68NqUxierkXc3-73Sfz9WrHs66nZAPnjgr1_-YjUHSXUKsDduNj7k9N4CZy5BpT1VdbJFoKsE9Vzp6cJw-ZRmtg44C_28S-FfIpg/s1600-h/prop8case.jpg"><img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 203px; height: 114px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhx_p1Xx8eMYXLcN4fgrZmDk6LkIHZCUcTqXttsMl68NqUxierkXc3-73Sfz9WrHs66nZAPnjgr1_-YjUHSXUKsDduNj7k9N4CZy5BpT1VdbJFoKsE9Vzp6cJw-ZRmtg44C_28S-FfIpg/s400/prop8case.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5428618529210902466" border="0" /></a><span style="font-style: italic;">Guest blogger </span><a style="font-style: italic;" href="http://unitethefight.blogspot.com/2010/01/prop-8-trial-coverage-opening-remarks.html">Davina Kotulski</a><span style="font-style: italic;"> of </span><a style="font-style: italic;" href="http://davinakotulski.com/">DavinaKotulski.com</a><span style="font-style: italic;"> reports on the Prop 8 trial, day 6.</span><br /><br />Attorney for the Proponents of Prop 8, Charles Cooper, is cross-examining Lee Badgett, Ph.D., a professor of economics at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst and the Research Director of the Williams’ Institute at UCLA.<br /><br />Cooper asserts that research suggests that many straight couples in the Netherlands are choosing to register as partners and not marry, and he is blaming this on gay marriage. How the heck he can scapegoat gay people for this I do not know. It seems quite obvious to me that straight people in the Netherlands are choosing to be registered partners because it’s an option. Just like same-sex couples in the Netherlands are choosing to marry, like my friends Martha (American) and Lin McDevitt-Pugh (Australian), who met while both were living in Amsterdam and fell in love.<br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 255, 0);">I CAN BRING MY DOG BACK TO THE COUNTRY BUT NOT MY WIFE</span> </div><br />Despite the fact that Martha and Lin are legally married in the Netherlands, the United States will not recognize their marriage under the so-called Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA). Martha, can bring her dog back to the United States, but her wife and her step-children are not recognized as legal family because of the DOMA law. I am hopeful that this case, or the case filed on behalf of married Massachusetts couples filed by GLAD, will lead the United States Supreme Court to find DOMA unconstitutional or Congress will find a way to undue this shameful law that they passed in the first place in 1996 during a panic over gay marriage.<br /><br />Before I go any further in sharing Cooper’s challenge to the research that the Williams’ Institute at UCLA has conducted insinuating that their numbers are exaggerated, I ask, why should a huge number of people have to be harmed by marriage discrimination before we step up and treat people with respect and dignity? Witnessing the harm marriage discrimination has on even one family is wrong. As Americans, should we not speak out and work for equality for all people? As Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. taught, shouldn’t we assert the inherent worth and equality all people?<br /><br />Badgett estimates that their were approximately 18,000 legal same-sex marriages.<br /><br />Cooper asserts that Massachusetts couples do not have the option of domestic partnerships or civil unions, only marriage. His point, “presumably some people would choose to register as domestic partnerships, just as they do in California and in the Netherlands. Shouldn’t your 60% marriage rate be adjusted to account for the same-sex couples who would have opted for a domestic partnership?”<br /><br />Badgett- I don’t think so. People voted with their feet - 25% of California same-sex couples got married in five months, and you double that for the whole year instead of just that six months.<br /><br />Cooper-So I take it your answer is no.<br /><br />Cooper-There are some disincentives for CA same-sex couples to marry that same-sex couples in MA don’t have, correct?<br /><br />Badgett-No<br /><br />Cooper-I was just advised by one of my colleagues that I was wrong about whether a document had been submitted.<br /><br />Cooper-After 205, Domestic partnerships became less popular as an option among same-sex couples. Would you agree with that?<br /><br />Badgett-No, I don’t think passing AB 205 had anything to do with it.<br /><br />He notes the number of dissolutions of same-sex couple relationships by year.<br /><br />2002-- 296<br /><br />2003--733<br /><br />2004 --2,513<br /><br />He is trying to make the point that people ended their domestic partnerships because they were given rights.<br /><br />My observation is that people who ended their domestic partnerships were in relationships that had already ended where partners had been slow or lazy about filing their dissolution papers, like many straight people do with their divorce papers. When these individuals realized that if they didn’t file a dissolution their ex-partner would have access to their community property and it would require them to go to court, not simply file a notarized piece of paper. They got online found the dissolution forms and got their butts to a notary.<br /><br />Cooper is also suggesting that people terminated their domestic partnerships because they didn’t want to share community property rights and notes that Massachusetts is not a community property state.<br /><br />I would argue that heterosexuals who get all of their rights at once, including the 1,138 federal rights that come with marriage, are able to do pre-nups, whereas same-sex couples had no opportunity to consider how this new status would affect their tax status as it became law on January 1, 2005.<br /><br />Badgett echoes my belief in her testimony by stating that “many tax attorneys advised same-sex couples to dissolve their domestic partnerships” until they understood the impact of this new law. Badgett notes that domestic partnership was a unique status created in California and an unknown quantity.<br /><br />I would also note that people chose not to become domestic partners because now Senator Mark Leno was simultaneously working to pass a marriage equality bill in the legislature. Also, many people who didn’t want to wait to get married, and were not inspired by domestic partnership, went north to Canada to tie the knot. Those same California couples might have chosen to get married in Massachusetts did not because of the 1913 law preventing couples from marrying in states that had mini-DOMA laws like California’s Knight Initiative.<br /><br />It’s been an hour now into the cross-examination and Cooper continues to belabor the point that he believes the calculations Badgett has come to in the Williams’ Institute Reports are exaggerated.<br /><br />As we make these estimates, things keep changing, now Vermont, Iowa, Connecticut and New Hampshire allow same-sex couples the right to marry and so our financial estimates for Massachusetts may change based on the couples who get married in those other states.<br /><br />Cooper asks Badgett-Would you change your opinion if it cost the government money rather than save it?<br /><br />Court takes a small break.Phillip Mintonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06680426451733583939noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4927755339790602529.post-21175028171984230902010-01-19T14:20:00.000-08:002010-01-19T14:31:39.158-08:00Prop 8 Trial Coverage Day 6: Lee Badgett - The Costs of Marriage Discrimination<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjPhEIgGtGh7u-Qm80oUYiSbPpeYFTn37eatshrvrt40MzDXC-6yGGNNQnm-mUhDhJvLIWE_7Ti_ScGysvLgdJjFjLxkNcriIDOS99lP6e1hYZUDh6ll8qkZwukespdw8-I3rQzxXPoJQ/s1600-h/leebadgett.jpg"><img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 205px; height: 308px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjPhEIgGtGh7u-Qm80oUYiSbPpeYFTn37eatshrvrt40MzDXC-6yGGNNQnm-mUhDhJvLIWE_7Ti_ScGysvLgdJjFjLxkNcriIDOS99lP6e1hYZUDh6ll8qkZwukespdw8-I3rQzxXPoJQ/s400/leebadgett.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5428580030796175234" border="0" /></a><span style="font-style: italic;">Guest blogger </span><a style="font-style: italic;" href="http://unitethefight.blogspot.com/2010/01/prop-8-trial-coverage-opening-remarks.html">Davina Kotulski</a><span style="font-style: italic;"> of </span><a style="font-style: italic;" href="http://davinakotulski.com/">DavinaKotulski.com</a><span style="font-style: italic;"> reports on the Prop 8 trial, day 6.</span><br /><br />M.V. Lee Badgett, Ph.D., a professor of economics at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst and the Research Director of the Williams’ Institute at UCLA. She was called to testify about the private harms caused by Prop. 8 and the impact of same-sex marriage on the marriages of different-sex couples.<br /><br />Badgett has a BA in economics from the University of Chicago (1982) and a PhD in economics from UC Berkeley (1990). Her book, “<span style="font-style: italic;">Money, Myths, and Change: The Economic Lives of Lesbians and Gay Men</span>” (University of Chicago Press) presents her ground-breaking work on sexual orientation discrimination and family policy. Her new book “<span style="font-style: italic;">When Gay People Get Married</span>” asks whether same-sex marriage will change marriage or change GLB people, drawing on the U.S. and European experiences with same-sex marriage.<br /><br />Professor Badgett’s Opinions Fall into 4 Categories<br /><br />1. Prop 8 has inflicted economic harm on same-sex couples residing in California and their children<br /><br />2. Permitting same-sex couples to marry will not adversely affect heterosexual couples or marriage<br /><br />3. Same-sex couples are similar to different-sex couples in most economic and demographic characteristics<br /><br />4. Prop 8 imposed substantial economic losses on California and its counties and municipalities.<br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 255, 0);">THE INABILITY TO MARRY INFLICTS ECONOMIC HARMS ON SAME-SEX COUPLES IN MANY WAY</span><br /></div><br />-Marriage confers numerous economic benefits many of which are not provided by DPS<br /><br />-Greater specialization of labor<br /><br />-Reduced transactions costs<br /><br />-Additional health and insurance benefits<br /><br />-Greater economies of scale-marriage pulls two people together, when they move in together they can live together more cheaply as a couple, than as two individuals<br /><br />-Stronger statement of commitment-the value of the statement of commitment underlie all of these economic benefits. Secondly it is a statement that is recognized and reinforced by people outside the marriage.<br /><br />-Greater validation and societal acceptance of relationship<br /><br />-More positive workplace outcomes from reduced discrimination-psych research, gay and lesbian people in workplace facing discrimination have different work experiences and economic gains from the workplace.<br /><br />-Same-sex couples who are not allowed to marry may feel in their workplace that they are treated differently from heterosexual couples who are allowed to marry, and that being unable to marry may affect their ability to get promotions, raises, etc.<br /><br />-Some of these costs may not be quantifiable, but they are substantial and are imposed on virtually all California same-sex couples who would marry if they could.<br /><br />Frank and Joe Capley-Alfano, the first same-sex couple recognized within the Free Masons, are registered domestic partners who were married in 2008. Frank is an elevator mechanic and gets his health insurance benefits from the National Elevator Industry Health Benefits Plan (NEIHBP) through the International Union of Elevator Constructors (IUEC) Local 8.<br /><br />Joe has a degenerative physical condition that requires medical treatment for he will lose the ability to walk. He and Frank petitioned the IUEC beginning in 2004 for medical benefits. Because of DOMA, IUEC does not have to provide a member’s domestic partner or same-sex spouse the health care benefits it provides to opposite-sex spouse.<br /><br />After six years of petitioning Local 8, who could have simply chosen to begin recognizing state sanctioned same-sex marriages, civil unions, and domestic partnerships, Local 8 agreed to provide Joe and Frank and others same-sex couples married ONLY in California during the 5 month period before Proposition 8 passed access health benefits.<br /><br />However, because of the fall back on the federal DOMA, they are refusing to recognize marriages performed in other states and California registered domestic partners. A lesbian whose family is affected by this inequality spoke at the vigil on 1-11-10. One partner is having to work a second job to provide for her partner and infant child.<br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 255, 0);">MARRIAGE EQUALITY IS THE GOLD STANDARD</span><br /></div><br />In 2008, the number of same-sex marriages in California far exceeded the number of domestic partnerships: 18,000 marriages and 2,077 domestic partnerships.<br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 255, 0);">SAME-SEX COUPLES ENTER INTO MARRIAGE AT HIGHER RATES THAN OTHER INSTITUTIONS</span><br /></div><br />Below is the percentage of same-sex couples who entered into these institutions the first year they were legal.<br /><br />37%=Marriages in the first year that they were allowed to marry<br />12%=Civil Unions<br />10%=Domestic Partnerships<br /><br />In California only 5% of couples registered as domestic partners in the first year (2000).<br /><br />11:00 AM<br /><br />Boies asks Badgett about couples who chose not to enter into domestic partnerships and the financial impact on this because of this choice. Badgett says they are numerous financial drawbacks for same-sex couples not to enter into domestic partnerships, but many LGBT people may choose not to because it relegates a second class status and when evaluating “the value” of domestic partnership it is significantly less than marriage.<br /><br />Badgett also discusses the benefits of same-sex marriage to couples and their children. Counsel submits a document entitled “The Effects of Marriage Equality in Massachusetts,” that reports that “Over 72% of respondents felt more committed to their partners, almost 70% felt more accepted by their communities, and 93% of those raising children in their homes agreed or somewhat agreed that their children were happier and better off as a result of their marriage.”<br /><br />This shows again that marriage helps stabilize relationships and keeps people together. It’s reminiscent of how the right wing chastises gay people for not being able to stay in long-term relationships and yet wishes to deny gay people access to marriage which supports long-term commitments.<br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 255, 0);">THE MONEY YOU COULD BE SAVING WITH MARRIAGE EQUALITY</span><br /></div><br />According to Badgett, the state and local governments are losing out on $40 million dollars by denying same-sex couples the right to marry.<br /><br />According to the Williams Institute’s reports, same-sex marriage would save state governments money on state means-tested public benefits programs. They found that because a single person’s benefits are based on their income alone and a married person’s income is based on the couple’s combined household income, fewer people would be eligible for state benefits, saving the state significant amounts of money.<br /><br />I have a whole chapter on this in my new book <span style="font-style: italic;">“Love Warriors: The Rise of the Marriage Equality Movement and Why It Will Prevail”</span>-April 2010Phillip Mintonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06680426451733583939noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4927755339790602529.post-36498931222101509852010-01-19T10:17:00.000-08:002010-01-19T14:39:10.058-08:00Prop 8 Trial Coverage Day 6: A Change of Heart for Marriage Equality<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgQ01B9VKBzTxJjYw261XPNaD7pyDuZHc35hXPwwAMu1In3OoG1EE1WqJqxb9enDKfxLknm6jh1_T_fqOvSory9OwoaYkH3iKI9tCjBID6Rv0a3iJ39MkLtlg3hgp1w0zlDfEDO_-Xvgg/s1600-h/sanders.jpg"><img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 205px; height: 305px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgQ01B9VKBzTxJjYw261XPNaD7pyDuZHc35hXPwwAMu1In3OoG1EE1WqJqxb9enDKfxLknm6jh1_T_fqOvSory9OwoaYkH3iKI9tCjBID6Rv0a3iJ39MkLtlg3hgp1w0zlDfEDO_-Xvgg/s400/sanders.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5428517431461708626" border="0" /></a><span style="font-style: italic;">Guest blogger </span><a style="font-style: italic;" href="http://unitethefight.blogspot.com/2010/01/prop-8-trial-coverage-opening-remarks.html">Davina Kotulski</a><span style="font-style: italic;"> of </span><a style="font-style: italic;" href="http://davinakotulski.com/">DavinaKotulski.com</a><span style="font-style: italic;"> reports on the Prop 8 trial, day 6.</span><br /><br />Driving rain and wind gusts of up to 51 mph reported in San Francisco. Day 6 of the Prop 8 trial begins. Today’s witnesses are Lee Badget, Williams Institute, UCLA, Jerry Sanders, current mayor of San Diego who has a lesbian daughter, and Ryan Kendall, a gay man who experienced conversion therapy.<br /><br />The morning started with Judge Walker having a bit of a challenge with Mr. Cooper whose response to Walker’s question about when he would return a response in regard to discovery and he stated to City Attorney Dennis Herrera, “Attorney, Mr. Flynn needs counseling on proper objections in deposition. Do a little wood-shedding of some of your lawyers.”<br /><br />Dennis Hererra then called Mayor Jerry Sanders to the stand.<br /><br />Jerry Sanders is a Republican, mayor for 4 years of San Diego. He’s in his second term. Sanders was a 1973 police recruit, Sgt. in 1979, policing squads of officers, Lt, 1981, swat commander, director of Police Academy, 1986 promoted to Captain, Commander 1990, Asst. Chief, Chief of Police 1993, retired in 1999, United Way 1999-2002. He is on his second marriage and has two daughters, Jamie straight, Lisa lesbian.<br /><br />Sanders said Lisa “called in her sophomore year of college said she wanted to talk to us in person. When she got home, she sat down and told us she was a lesbian and in a lesbian relationship.”<br /><br />He said that when she told him he “felt an overwhelming love, but I realized how difficult it was for her (emotion in voice) to come out to her parents. We told her that we loved her more than we ever would and we would support her every step of the way. I thought it was tough on gay people in society, I was proud of her for letting us know.”<br /><br />Sanders was a police officer in San Diego for 26 years and said “I’d seen what happened to people who were gay. It was the 1970s, San Diego was very conservative. We had a Sergeant who came out and told us he was gay and he was literally driven out of the police department. I’ve seen violence against the gay community simple because people were gay, gay bashings, death in the early 90s, I heard the slurs and the comments that people make.”<br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 255, 0);">GROUNDED IN PREJUDICE</span><br /></div><br />"I used to believe civil unions were a fair alternative. In September 2007, the city of San Diego, City Council passed a resolution supporting San Francisco in a lawsuit in favor of marriage equality for same-sex couples. I had to make a decision to veto or sign the resolution - my decision was to sign the resolution.”<br /><br />Sanders stated that his previous belief that civil unions are fair is grounded in prejudice and when he realized that he was prejudiced he decided not to veto the resolution in support of marriage equality.<br /><br />You can see the videotape of the press conference on why he is signing resolution in support of marriage equality on YouTube.<br /><br /><object height="332" width="410"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/0rfea8iEGNw&hl=en_US&fs=1&"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/0rfea8iEGNw&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="332" width="410"></embed></object><br /><br />Here is a transcription.<br /><blockquote style="font-style: italic;">“My plan was to veto the resolution. My opinion on this issue (gay marriage) has evolved. The arrival of the resolution, to sign or to veto, in my office late last night, forced me to reflect and search my soul for the right thing to do. I’ve decided to lead with my heart, which is probably obvious at the moment. (He says choked up with emotion.) To do what I think is right and to take a stand on equality and social justice. The right thing for me to do is to sign this resolution.<br /><br />For three decades, I’ve worked to bring justice, enlightenment, and equality to all parts of our community. As I reflected on the choices I had before me last night, I could not bring myself to tell an entire group of people in our community they were less important, less worthy, or less deserving of the rights and responsibilities of marriage than anyone else simply because of their sexual orientation.<br /><br />A decision to veto this resolution would have been inconsistent with the values I’ve embraced over the past thirty years. I do believe that times have changed and with changing time and new life experiences come different opinions. Two years ago I believed civil unions were a fair alternative. Those beliefs in my case have changed. The concept of a separate, but equal, institution is not something I can support.<br /><br />I have close family members, friends and members of my personal staff who are gay. I want for them the same thing that we all want for our loved ones—to for each of them to find a mate whom they love deeply and who loves them back. Someone whom they can grow old together and share life’s experiences, and I want their relationships to be protected equally under the law. In the end, I couldn’t look them in the face and tell them that their relationship, their lives, were any less meaningful then the life I share with my wife.”</blockquote>In his testimony Sanders shared that “gay people would walk by my house and tell me ‘we are a family just like you are,’ and they shared with me how marriage discrimination hurt them.”<br /><br />“I supported the resolution because I think it is in the interest of government. I know how easy it is to discriminate against people when you see it in the leadership” Sanders said. “If government tolerates discrimination for any reason it’s an excuse for the public to act the same way, and this had led to violence against gays and lesbians in San Diego.”<br /><br />Sanders went on to say that “when the government denies fundamental rights to people it empowers others to commit hate crimes.”<br /><br />“In the early days, there were a lot of gay bashings.” Sanders reported in his testimony. “Young men would get drunk and go out and gay bash people. In 2006, an individual brought a baseball bat to gay pride and beat several people with a baseball bat, and almost beat one man to death.”<br /><br />Sanders spoke about how when he “was a young cop in the 70s, I participated in the slurs and the comments in the locker room. There was a sergeant who was a good cop and he was driven out of the force. I felt fundamentally that was not right!”<br /><br />When discussing his own prejudice, Sanders asked, “How can someone who has been committed to equality for all people be prejudiced against anyone? I was on the board of director for Christians and Jews, I was a board chair, I participated in diversity workshops, two rounds of diversity training with the city, yet the fact that I still believed that civil unions were equal, really shook me, because the decision I made was grounded in prejudice, I was discriminating against my own daughter and her relationship.”<br /><br />Sanders spoke about his daughter-in-law, Megan who married his daughter, Lisa in Vermont in December 2009. “She’s been an excellent partner for my daughter, but Megan is like another piece of my family…they deserve to have the same rights.”<br /><br />When asked what he thought of the Yes on 8 campaign materials, Sanders said, “I don’t know why children would need to be protected from my daughter, Lisa, who is the most loving compassionate person I know.”<br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 255, 0);">CROSS-EXAMINATION 9:20 AM</span><br /></div><br />Brian Raum began the cross-examination of Mayor Sanders.<br /><br />Raum is asking Mayor Sanders questions to show that his belief that there is no discrimination against LGBT people because there are openly gay and lesbian members of city council, there are fewer hate crimes against gays since the 1970s when he first started working in the police department, and because the police department has worked to reach out to improve relationships with the gay and lesbian community.<br /><br />Raum is showing Sanders a Yes Prop 8 commercial. “Marriage between a man and a woman is hardly a controversial idea….Marriage binds men and women for one reason the raising of children.”<br /><br />The rest of the commercial talks about how the supporters of Prop 8 have called Yes on 8 supporters “intolerant, offensive, bigots,” and how they vandalized and stole Yes on 8 signs, damaged the property of Yes on 8 supporters and intimidated Yes on 8 supporters.<br /><br />Raum is making the case that No on 8 people were violent against Yes on 8 supporters. I can’t speak for everyone, but I can say that I personally experienced intimidation on numerous occasions by Yes on 8 people in my own neighborhood.Phillip Mintonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06680426451733583939noreply@blogger.com0