tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4927755339790602529.post175320170096592675..comments2024-03-08T09:33:41.443-08:00Comments on Unite the Fight: VIDEO: Do You Feel the No on 1 Ads in Maine Are Hitting Hard Enough? A Comparison to Prop 8 Ads.Phillip Mintonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06680426451733583939noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4927755339790602529.post-62985320934989496412009-09-19T15:22:17.790-07:002009-09-19T15:22:17.790-07:00These ads give me an uneasy feeling of deja vu all...These ads give me an uneasy feeling of deja vu all over again.<br /><br />The local Mainer and 'outsider' messages set a good tone because they resonate with Maine sensibilites. But they are superficial and do not address the actual ballot measure nor do they reframe the conversation. The failure to find the core overarching message that is a game changer is troubling. <br /><br />We knowTerry Leftgoffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4927755339790602529.post-83661347513887847172009-09-17T22:51:14.663-07:002009-09-17T22:51:14.663-07:00I agree about testing. I'm actually not for go...I agree about testing. I'm actually not for going what makes us feel "better." We're not our target audience. It's not always best to show gays and lesbians in ads and so forth.<br /><br />A question though - with such a quick turn around in the rebuttal from NO on 1, I'm curious was testing was done for it. <br /><br />As for framing the debate in advance, again, it'Phillip Mintonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06680426451733583939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4927755339790602529.post-13488143664123606642009-09-17T20:52:57.153-07:002009-09-17T20:52:57.153-07:00It's been said before, but we need to remember...It's been said before, but we need to remember that none of these ads is put on the air before it's demonstrated to be effective in tests before the very audiences we need to reach. With these multi-million ad buys we need to craft messages that work, not ones that make us feel better. <br /><br />I am not convinced that repeating and emphasizing the arguments of the other side BEFORE George True Simpsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05842083717023695759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4927755339790602529.post-40694780210873601442009-09-17T10:11:57.921-07:002009-09-17T10:11:57.921-07:00Hey United, this is Anonymous from 12:33 am. I fi...Hey United, this is Anonymous from 12:33 am. I figured I should comment with a username.<br /><br />First, I do want to say that - agree or disagree - I do appreciate the dialogue. This blog is excellent. The posts are informative and the analysis is insightful, even when I disagree with it. So first off, thanks for all your efforts in blogging.<br /><br />Just a couple of responses to your Stevennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4927755339790602529.post-85454647030428615962009-09-17T08:25:07.829-07:002009-09-17T08:25:07.829-07:00Anonymous said, "As an initial matter, you ar...Anonymous said, "As an initial matter, you are missing an ad. No on 1 allies ran another ad that is not included in your post. So that is 3 of our ads to 1 of theirs. We were on the air 3 weeks before our opposition, in contrast to Prop 8."<br /><br />Actually, I linked to this ad before any of the official campaign ads in the post. However, since it wasn't an official campaign ad, Phillip Mintonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06680426451733583939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4927755339790602529.post-68813607065827994222009-09-17T02:10:21.409-07:002009-09-17T02:10:21.409-07:00i think the no on 1 is great blow up there air way...i think the no on 1 is great blow up there air ways with ads!<br /><br />they are doing a way better job and we need to learn from them here in ca for the 2010!<br /><br />i live here in the central valley and i didn't see any! ads till that friday before the tuesday vote!<br /><br />we need to be the 1st ones out there and we need to keep pushing..<br /><br />but we need to some how let the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4927755339790602529.post-81417250661838585922009-09-17T00:37:52.037-07:002009-09-17T00:37:52.037-07:00@ Rem:
"We are going to lose Maine; We deser...@ Rem:<br /><br />"We are going to lose Maine; We deserve to."<br /><br />That is a disgusting comment. Really. Because you don't like one rebuttal ad, we "deserve" to lose marriage equality in Maine? Thank God you are not running the show.<br /><br />Also, Prop 6 in 1978 was not popular in the polls. That is precisely why Carter and Reagan both felt comfortable Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4927755339790602529.post-39740559889315384702009-09-17T00:33:58.912-07:002009-09-17T00:33:58.912-07:00Sorry, I completely disagree. As an initial matte...Sorry, I completely disagree. As an initial matter, you are missing an ad. No on 1 allies ran another ad that is not included in your post. So that is 3 of our ads to 1 of theirs. We were on the air 3 weeks before our opposition, in contrast to Prop 8.<br /><br />You say:<br />"Shouldn't we have had an ad on the air already addressing these specific concerns before the Yes on 1 Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4927755339790602529.post-81020044839574662852009-09-16T22:18:11.781-07:002009-09-16T22:18:11.781-07:00I'm inclined to agree -- Maine's rebuttal ...I'm inclined to agree -- Maine's rebuttal ad is all over the map, very general, and doesn't really frame the conversation.<br /><br />I'd really like to see ads with JUST teachers and JUST lawyers talking about voting No On 1, instead of an all-over-the-map approach.MattyMatthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11350260366720888728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4927755339790602529.post-19916408105220410502009-09-16T21:27:53.410-07:002009-09-16T21:27:53.410-07:00The URL was cut off:
http://home.comcast.net/~rem...The URL was cut off:<br /><br />http://home.comcast.net/~remmelton/Prop_8_files/Dade%20County.pdfRemhttp://home.comcast.net/~remmelton/Welcome.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4927755339790602529.post-15468460668012106992009-09-16T21:25:41.181-07:002009-09-16T21:25:41.181-07:00I don't know why this is so difficult for us. ...I don't know why this is so difficult for us. We knew what to do in 1978: directly address and counter the lies being told about us.<br /><br />For those interested in a comparison between the No on 8 campaign and the Briggs 1978 campaign:<br /><br />http://home.comcast.net/~remmelton/Prop_8_files/Dade%20County.pdf<br /><br />I think it is useful to remember that in 1978, the polls were Remnoreply@blogger.com